What should Friends of BJP do?
As Friends of BJP, we are all disappointed with what the results. Even as we introspect on what has gone wrong for the BJP and the Left (and what has gone right for the Congress), we need to also look ahead. BJP did not do particularly well in many urban areas across India. In fact, it ended up losing all the seats in Delhi, and failed to win any in Mumbai. Urban Middle India is what the Friends of BJP would like to focus on. The question for all of us is: what role can the Friends of BJP play going ahead?
May 17, 2009 | Filed Under Activities
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There is nothing to be disheartened. Life is a continuous flow of water. If we believe in what we want, results do not matter.
The urban middle class was where bjp was supposed to be strong. You can blame 5 years of rampant media bias and support for the congress for this change in opinion.
Friends of BJP should continue to do atleast the following :-
(1) Why BJP - needs to keep going and should be done at regular intervals where national leaders are presented in front of the Youth (Colleges) and Educated Young with clarity on the policies and principles of BJP
(2) Viral marketing needs to continue through the medium of internet.
(3) Social causes that inspire the youth for nation building activities should be started.
(4) Finally, what is RSS - needs to be clarified. BJP can never be successful till average educated urban people understand why Vajpayeeji was always proud to be a RSS sevak - unless that is understood BJP will never be able to gain the mass popularity in urban India.
There are lot of nobility in the fundamental principles of BJP and they never go out of fashion irrespective of what I hear in the media and even by the so calld BJP commentators. The problem is they were never understood by the mases due to years of negativity - that has to be clarified, and explained.
People need to understand BJP is neither communal nor ant-Muslim or anti-Christian. It is Pro-India where it wants one law for everybody, one set of opportunities where anybody can prosper, a business climate which makes India not just an outsourcing capital of the world but a leader on innovation, products and services, a domestic economy robust enough to sustain the economic fluctuations in the world market, an infrastructure growth that provides the right business climate, clean rivers starting with River Ganges which is not only for Spiritual reasons but also for the betterment of so many people that depend on its water, a climate where terrorism and terrorists will be dealt with strongly and that includes all kind of terrorists even the political kind that calls for Bandh and Gheraos with little provocation, an education system which prepares leaders for tomorrow with the righ values and pride on our Bhartiyata along with the knowledge needed to succeed in this global market, a health care facility which provides preventive care to the poorest of the poor, and a sealed border that stops illegal infiltrations from neighboring countries, a country where religious tourism is provided to help people understand the rich spirituality of India in the most efficient and satisfying manner, and finally a country where reservations are done not on the basis of last names but by absence of means.
Hopefully, our BJP leaders will work towards common goal with a new vigour and hope. I know I will be cheering them all the way.
I am sure there will be several explanation for BJP’s defeat. From MNS factor in Mumbai to party infighting in Rajasthan and Delhi etc. Some blame heat factor and others are blaming Modi. However, none of these explains: what does Congress has that BJP doesn’t?
To put it frankly it is the Muslim vote which makes the real difference in Indian politics. You may wonder how come 13% vote can actually have such a big impact. In order to understand the impact you have to see the top 4 states in terms of muslim percentage: WB, Kerala, UP, Bihar. Together they comprise of 182 seats in Loksabha. BJP got 21 and its allies got 25. Together they receive 46 out of 182 which is definitely not good enough to make a government. Further, 30 out of this 46 come in Bihar, where BJP is surviving solely on JD-U crutches. I am sure without JD-U alliance situation will be grim.
WB and Kerala will be useless to discuss here. Therefore, I will directly move towards UP and Bihar. Together these two states contribute 140 seats in loksabha. And, the nature of politics is same in both the states.
UP has 18% muslim population and Bihar has about 15%. Therefore, a candidate running on BJP ticket essentially starts at -18% and -15% votes respectively because muslims vote for the candidate who is in the best situation to defeat BJP. In a four way fight such as in UP, this represent near certain defeat. Therefore, even if you receive good vote share overall, it is very difficult to win seats in UP. Unless there is very strong polarization of votes such as seats in Gorakhpur or Pilibhit (two seats that BJP won comfortably). Lucknow was traditional stronghold. Rest such as Varanasi, Ghaziabad etc. were narrow margin victories. And, I am sure if the situation does not change, then bjp candidates will be unelectable in UP similar to that in WB and Kerala.
Another important factor for BJP’s defeat in UP (and that may extend to Bihar in future aswell) is the gradual depletion of pro-BJP votes. Earlier upper castes + (part of OBC) use to vote for bjp. However, that has changed, atleast in this election. Upper caste now vote for a candidate of their own caste especially to a non-bjp party. In that way, they have chances of getting better representation in politics. Parties like BSP and SP have their core voters, whereas BJP core votes have shrunk significantly. Infact even Congress can claim to have higher share of core voters(muslims).
In this election upper caste voters gradually moved towards Congress, which provides them with better chances of winning. Infact, upper caste + muslim makes a formidable alliance which may help Congress in growing in these two states. Further, alliance with muslims does not come at higher cost. All they want is to keep BJP out and allow some appeasement policies(remember Shah Bano etc.). Whereas, BSP, SP, RJD etc. are very demanding and want significant share of goodies(jobs, reservations, money etc.) for their brethren.
In order to compete with BSP and SP, upper caste has finally surrendered to Congress, which may mean complete annihilation of BJP in these two states.
Finally, this whole drama of Nitish Kumar and his good governance reminds me of Charan Singh in Janta government. Congress is throwing him this bait such that he should break away from BJP. Due to this break up, Nitish will loose a big chunk of upper caste vote, which may go to Congress. Nitish will be left with his (OBC-Yadav) vote. BJP with a small fraction of upper caste. Laloo has already lost his muslim votes(Congress won in kishanganj in Bihar) and will be left with Yadavs. And in a 4 way fight, Congress will win hands down.
Therefore, in the coming years Congress will gain in UP and Bihar and BJP will be the biggest looser. I hope BJP think tank is looking into the situation and hope they take necessary steps to hold their ground.
The important thing for BJP is to restart the dialogue with the middle class voters that the party has lost. Above all, the BJP has lost out among students, on university campuses and among educated professionals. Of course, an extreme media bias against BJP has played a role in that.
1) BJP friends needs to use the internet to reach out to young people across the country. Use of sites like Facebook, Orkut, etc is important.
2) This website can act as a convergence point for volunteers who are ready to set up booths on college campuses and outside shopping malls, talking about the business friendly and pro-growth approach of the BJP. An attempt should be made to restrain negative commentary and talk of Hindutva.
3) The lower castes, Dalits, adivasis are all groups that the BJP has not tapped very much and all these groups have potential to become BJP voters. These are people who are the most disadvantaged of all and hence most easily impressed by talk of a golden future where every Adivasi kid can have a laptop computer and every Adivasi can have access to quality healthcare.
Good job guys.
Clearly, this initiative has to continue.
The next 5 years are crucial for India. If the Congress fails to deliver good governance, security etc. etc. and there is a good probability of hubris and arrogance happening, BJP has to be around to fill that space - or else lumpens will take over…
There is a huge incentive to carry forward Friends of BJP.
(1) Many state elections will be held in the coming 2-3 years starting from the important one of Maharastra this September, We as a forum need to throw our weight in for these elections. At any point of time BJP/NDA need to govern atleast 10 states to be in national reckoning.
(2) Strategic inputs need to be given to the BJP as to how it can penetrate into AP, TN and probably Orissa now. These can be related to campaigns carried out, nurturing grassroot leaders some of whom can be from this forum and a *very* urgent need to improve media perception.
(3)Keep a check on the state governments where BJP is ruling and offer them constructive criticism and advice.
(4) Finally, there is need for a medium which can be a channel between an Ardent BJP supporter and theorganization. Friends of BJP is just that.
I hope this forum doesnt become defunct.
This is little long. I request BJP friends to read.
UPA thanked Indian Voters for their good attitude of accepting all the troubels they had in the last 5 years and UPA continue to do in the next 5 years,
The following common agenda for next 5 years.
Secular Agenda:
1. Parliament attacker “Afzal guru” will be made Rajya sabha MP to satisfy muslim community
2. as in tamilnadu, a separate Education Board will be set up for Chrisitian and Mulsim minorities and divert all the education fund allocation to these institutions to benefit them and destruct the common education board (UGC, CBSE, NCERT & state board) to reduce aid to common and hindu run schools. The benefit is only minority students will pass.
3. Muslims are allowed TV channels to abuse Hindu practices
4. Chrisitians are empowered to do “religion conversions and abduct all the properties and lands of Hindu; and also empowerd to split the hindu family by converting only the wife to christianity. They will be encourgaed to issue pamphlets abusing hindu gods and practices at the gate of all hindu temples. And last use the funds in Hindu endowment board to chrisitan churches. Last agenda is “ convert Tirupati as Vatican”.
5. Increase minority reservation to 20% each for muslims and christians.
6. All the law commisions and cases will be withdrawn which are filed on muslims for various bomb blasts occurred in the last 5 years.
Economic Agenda
All the green lands will be sold to foreign property companies to convert to real estates. They issue public shares and increase the sensex to 40, 000 points. They sell all the shares to small retail investors, taking all the money from india and run away. Then the sensex crashes to 4000 points. So we make every EDUCATED, BRILLIANT indians to become poor. So that commonality evolved. Two benefits here, spoil the agriculture and import all the foods. We satisfy all the foreign countries for imports.
Bofors issue is over. Quattrochi will be our foreign scandal advisor.
Due imports and encouraging on line trading (karthik chidambaram) the prices will increase and per KG rice/ wheat will touch rs.100. so that every citizen will change the eating habits and no one will eat.
We will encourage foreign companies in Insurance, and they also will make money from our country (like AIG survived only in INDIA).
We will encourage Money laundring and TAX heaveans, As Madam of congress party directed all the tax heavans will be only with VATICAN BANK and not swiss bank anymore.
Medical will be costlier and costliest. Future indian women health is questionable as only ciesarian is allowed and helping to have further complications life long by promotiing greedy hospital network.
Education will be
The students who belong to Minority or SC,MBC, BC (greemy layer), and gets 35% will get all IIM, IIT seats without spending any money. Their parents continue to spend their money in Bars and TASMAC (TN govt run arrack shop) and some wise parents to invest in lands.
The FEE loss from the above said community will be charged from the students who belong to FW and HINDU and gets 96%. Their parents continue to work 24 hours to earn & save money for their childrens’ education. (fee raised from 3 laks to 12 lakhs in the last 5 years in IIM and IITs)
Allies Agenda:
Spectrum Rs.1 lakh crore scam will be forgiven and looking for some share from DMK. Ditch Indian economy.
Cash for Vote in parliament “confidence vote event” will be forgiven and mulyam, amar will be get cabinet berth.
All the blackmoney in tax heavens will be protected by new Allies Law.
All Grand parents of M.Karunanidhi, Lalu group will be given Cabinet post whenever they demand & threatening to quit.
India will be divided by Regional party heads like Karunanidhi and create separte budgets etc to help their family to become world no.1 richest.
Chiranjeevi and Vijaykanth will be encouraged to split the opposition votes.
Security Agenda:
The srilankan tamil is no more a issue.
Bangladeshis are allowed to settle india without any formalities
Western sea routes will be cleared for Talibans and Dawoods.
Northern himalya border is opened for Chinese troops
Arunachal Pradesh will be handed over to china shortly.
No Vasu no… no hatred. We have to be humble and hardworking. Issues that enthuse us do not enthuse middle class voters…
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VANDE MATARAM
From:- FROM A JOURNALIST [Investigative]& COUNTER JOURNALISM
Dear Countrymen-Letters to the Editor-PCCouncil-CII-NHRC-Minorities Commission
Namashkar
Vande Mataram
BHARATHIYA JANATHA PARTY SHOULD REALISE THAT THE MISSIONARIES AND CHURCH WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXPANSION OF BRITISH EMPIRE AND DESTRUCTION OF HINDU CULTURE BEFORE INDEPENDENCE AND POST INDEPENDENCE THE CHURCH AND MISSIONARIES OCCUPIED THE COMMUNICATION AND MEDIA & CLOAK OF SECULARISM- THEIR PROGINIES OR TROJAN HORSE ARE THE CHRISTIAN MEDIA-NDTV-TIMESNOW-IBN-HEADLINES TALK- Who started their Campaign from the Manglore Pub attack and Kandamal- which was used to manipulate the Minds of Youth and influence them.
Their Target is SHRI NARENDER MODI AND YEDURAPPA.The Best thing to avoid them - let them carry out any sting operations. In Six Months time- there will be a Big Change. This Verdict WAS FOR MR MANMOHAN SINGH TROJAN HORSE AND NOT FOR CONGRESS.
There is always a Silver Lining and that is Mir Jaffer is slained- That is Communists, Laloo/RJD,JMM, LJP - who colluded with the Roman Catholics in the name of Secularism- got a solid Drubbing. They allowed the snake into the well and it will swallow them.
BSP/AIDMK( EGO SHOULD NOT BE THERE).
SECULARISM SHOULD BE PRACTISED AMONGST THE FAMILY AND NOT WITH OUTSIDERS- THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNISTS DID AND THEY GOT IT IN STYLE- THEY SHOULD READ MUNSHI PREM CHANDS BOOK - ” PARDAH”.
ALL HINDU ORGANISATIONS SHOULD LEARN THE LESSON AND AVOID-CHRISTIAN MEDIA- NDTV-TIMESNOW-IBN-HEADLINES TALK AND START A CAMPAIGN EXPOSING THEM AND SEND THE MESSAGE TO ALL TO STOP GIVING ADVERTISMENTS FOR THE TREACHERY.
PLEASE READ HOW THE MISSIONARY BRAIN WORKS AND HOW MUCH PLANNING THEY DO.JUST READ HOW FOR THE VICIOUS BRAIN THINKS AND EXECUTE- SINKING OF THE TITANIC:
THE SINKING OF THE TITANIC
When we think of events that have transpired in history over the last one
hundred to two hundred years, there are certain events that stand out as
ones of great horror, great surprise and great sadness. Of the many that
come to mind the most devastating have been the destruction of the the
World Trade Center in New York City and the sinking of the Titanic.
The greatest tragedies in the last two hundred years can be traced to the
Jesuits. We will now show that the Jesuits planned and carried out the
sinking of the Titanic, and we will show why they did it.
Since the early 1830’s, America did not have a central bank. The Jesuits
desperately wanted another central bank in America so that they would
have a bottomless reservoir from which to draw money for their many
wars and other hideous schemes around the world.
In 1910, seven men met on Jekyll Island just off the coast of Georgia to
establish a central bank, which they called the Federal Reserve Bank.
These men were Nelson Aldrich and Frank Vanderlip, both representing
the Rockefeller financial empire; Henry Davison, Charles Norton, and
Benjamin Strong, representing J.P. Morgan; and Paul Warburg, representing
the Rothschild banking dynasty of Europe. We have already seen that the
Rothschilds were the banking agents for the papacy’s Jesuits, holding “the
key to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church.”
The Morgans were friendly competitors with the Rothschilds and
became socially close to them. Morgan’s London-based firm was
saved from financial ruin in 1857 by the Bank of England over which
the Rothschilds held great influence. Thereafter, Morgan appears
to have served as a Rothschild financial agent and went to great length to
appear totally American….
His [Rockefeller's] entry into the field was not welcomed by Morgan,
and they became fierce competitors. Eventually, they decided to
minimize their competition by entering into joint ventures. In the end,
they worked together to create a national banking cartel called the
Federal Reserve System. - G. Edward Griffin, The Creature from
Jekyll Island, American Opinion Publishing, p. 209. (Emphasis supplied).
These three financial families, the Rothschilds, Morgans, and Rockefellers
all do the bidding of the Jesuit Order because of Jesuit infiltration in their
organizations. They do whatever is necessary to destroy constitutional
liberty in America and to bring the pope to world domination. As we
look back over the 20th century, we see how successful the Jesuits
have been. They have continued to squander the wealth of America
and continually attack its great constitution and civil liberties. Daily,
the power of the pope in Vatican City increases.
One day they will achieve total power again.
The building of the Titanic began in 1909 at a shipyard in Belfast,
the capitol of Northern Ireland. Belfast was a Protestant haven and
was hated by the Jesuits. World War One began just a few years later.
The Titanic was one of a fleet of ships owned by the White Star Line,
an international shipping company.
Banking was not the only business in which Morgan had a strong financial
interest. Using his control over the nation’s railroads as financial leverage,
he had created an international shipping trust which included Germany’s
two largest lines plus one of the two in England, the White Star Lines. - Ibid, p. 246.
There were a number of very rich and powerful men who made it
abundantly clear that they were not in favor of the Federal Reserve
System. J.P. Morgan was ordered by the Jesuits to build the Titanic.
This ‘unsinkable’ ship would serve as the death ship for those
who opposed the Jesuits’ plan for a Federal Reserve system.
These rich and powerful men would have been able to block the
establishment of the Federal Reserve, and their power and fortunes
had to be taken out of their hands. They had to be destroyed by a
means so preposterous that no one would suspect that they were
murdered, and no one would suspect the Jesuits. The Titanic was
the vehicle of their destruction. In order to further shield the papacy
and the Jesuits from suspicion, many Irish, French, and Italian Roman
Catholics immigrating to the New World were aboard. They were
people who were expendable. Protestants from Belfast who wanted
to immigrate to the United States were also invited on board.
All the wealthy and powerful men the Jesuits wanted to get rid of
were invited to take the cruise. Three of the richest and most important
of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s
Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest
man in the world. Their total wealth, at that time, using dollar values
of their day was more than 500 million dollars. Today that amount
of money would be worth nearly eleven billion dollars. These three men
were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to
be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and
influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars
that were being planned.
Edward Smith was the captain of the Titanic. He had been traveling the
North Atlantic waters for twenty-six years and was the world’s most
experienced master of the North Atlantic routs. He had worked for
Jesuit, J.P. Morgan, for many years.
Edward Smith was a ‘Jesuit tempore co-adjator.’ This means that he
was not a priest, but he was a Jesuit of the short robe. Jesuits are not
necessarily priests. Those who are not priests serve the order through
their profession. Anyone could be a Jesuit, and their identity would not
be known. Edward Smith served the Jesuit Order in his profession as a
sea captain.
Many interesting points about the Titanic are discussed in a videotape
made by National Geographic in 1986.
The videotape is entitled The Secrets of the Titanic. When the Titanic
departed from Southern England on April 10, 1912, Francis Browne,
the Jesuit master of Edward Smith, boarded the Titanic. This man was
the most powerful Jesuit in all of Ireland and answered directly to the
general of the Jesuit Order in Rome.
The videotape declares:
A vacationing priest, Father Francis Browne, caught these poignant snapshots
of his fellow passengers, most of them on a voyage to eternity.
The next day Titanic made her last stop off the coast of Queenstown,
Ireland. Here tenders brought out the last passengers; mostly Irish immigrants
headed for new homes in America. And here, the lucky Father Browne
disembarked…. Father Browne caught Captain Smith peering down
from Titanic’s bridge, poised on the brink of destiny. - The Secrets of
the Titanic, National Geographic, video tape, 1986.
Here is Jesuit treachery at its finest. The Provincial [Father Francis Browne]
boards Titanic, photographs the victims, most assuredly briefs the Captain
concerning his oath as a Jesuit, and the following morning bids him farewell.
- Eric J. Phelps, Vatican Assassins, Halycon Unified Services, p. 427.
Browne went over with Edward Smith one last time exactly what he was
supposed to do in the North Atlantic waters. The Jesuit General told Francis
Browne what was to happen; Browne then tells Smith and the rest is history.
Edward Smith believed that the Jesuit General
. . . is the god of the [Jesuit] society, and nothing but his electric touch can
galvanize their dead corpses into life and action. Until he speaks, they are
like serpents coiled up in their wintry graves, lifeless and inactive; but the
moment he gives the word of command, each member springs instantaneously
to his feet, leaving unfinished whatsoever may have engaged him, ready to assail
whomsoever he may require to be assailed, and to strike wheresoever he shall
direct a blow to be stricken. - R.W. Thompson, The Footprints of the Jesuits,
Hunt and Eaton, pp. 72, 73.
Edward Smith was given an order to sink the Titanic and that is exactly what he did.
By the command of God, [the Jesuit General] it is lawful to murder the innocent,
to rob, to commit all lewdness, because he [the Pope] is Lord of life, and death,
and of all things; and thus to fulfill his mandate is our duty. - W. C. Brownlee,
Secret Instructions of the Jesuits, American and Foreign Christian Union, p. 143.
There is no record in history of an association whose organization has stood for
three hundred years unchanged and unaltered by all the assaults of men and time,
and which has exercised such an immense influence over the destinies of mankind.
‘The ends justify the means,’ is his favorite maxim; and as his only end, as we have
shewn, is the order, at its bidding the Jesuit is ready to commit any crime whatsoever.
- G. B. Nicolini, The History of the Jesuits, Henry G. Bohn, pp. 495, 496, emphasis added.
Let us remember the oath that every person takes to become a part of the Jesuit Order:
I should regard myself as a dead body, without will or intelligence, as a
little crucifix which is turned about unresistingly at the will of him who
holds it as a staff in the hands of an old man, who uses it as he requires
it, and as it suits him best. - R. W. Thompson, The Footprints of the Jesuits,
Hunt and Eaton, p. 54.
When a person takes the Jesuit Oath, he is bound to his master until the
day that he dies. Edward Smith had become a man without will or intelligence.
He would commit any crime the Order wanted him to commit. Edward
Smith had been required for martyrdom. On board the Titanic that night,
Edward Smith knew his duty. He was under oath. The ship had been built
for the enemies of the Jesuits. After three days at sea with only one pair of
glasses for the bridge, Edward Smith propelled the Titanic full speed ahead,
twenty-two knots, on a moonless dark night through a gigantic ice field nearly
eighty square miles in area. Edward Smith did this despite at least eight telegrams
warning him to be more cautious because he was going too fast.
Did Edward Smith need one caution? No, he had been traveling those waters
for twenty-six years. He knew there were icebergs in that area. But eight
cautions did not stop this man who was under the Jesuit oath, and under
orders to destroy the Titanic.
The absurdity of warning veteran Captain Edward Smith repeatedly on
Titanic’s tragic night to slow down is nothing short of preposterous. The
fact that Smith never listened or heeded the warnings is insane. He had
been given orders from his god in the Vatican, and nothing would turn
him from his course.
The encyclopedias paint a very tragic picture of Smith in his last hours.
When it came time to give the order to load and lower the lifeboats,
Smith wavered and one of his aids had to approach him for the order
to be given. Smith’s legendary skills of leadership seem to have left him;
he was curiously indecisive and unusually cautious on that fatal night.
Are these words to describe a legendary sea captain with 26 years of
experience, or are these words to describe a man who was struggling
in his mind whether he should do his duty as a sea captain or obey his
master who told him to sink the ship?
John Jacob Astor’s wife got into a life boat and was saved, while John
Jacob Astor perished in the waters of the North Atlantic. There were
not enough lifeboats and many of them were only half full with only
women and children.
To prevent nearby freighters from responding with help, the distress
flares were white when they should have been red. White flares to
passing freighters state that everybody was having a party.
One of the greatest tragedies of the twentieth century, the sinking
of the Titanic, lies at the door of the Jesuit Order. The unsinkable
ship, the floating palace was created to be the tomb for the wealthy,
who opposed the Federal Reserve System. By April, 1912, all
opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December
of 1913, the Federal Reserve System came into being in the United
States. Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through
the Federal Reserve bank to begin World War One.
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The younger generation of India who does not have have a view into the history of BJP have a lot of misconceptions .
We should leverage the online media such as this forum to introduce BJP to the young and first time voters in 2014 and also clear all misgiving they have for the BJP
Younger India will listen less and less to the Rajdeep Sardesais and Burkha Dutts of the world and get their information from the web where forums such as these can be very useful
I guess its time for BJP to spread its base in states like West Bengal, Tamil Nadu , AP,UP. You cant think of forming a government anticipating regional parties in those states to support you. One of the reasons Congress does well in elections is the wide base it has. It has presence in Almost all states in India which gives them a wider voter base. Its time for BJP to give youth a share. 45-50% of Indian voters are youngsters and they would not be inspired by speeches of old people. What worked for Congress is having Rahul Gandhi. He ensured that youngsters got a fair chance and majority of 45-50% of Indian electorate went with Congress which accounts for chunk of the votes. I feel BJP should have a much stronger youth wing and a young leader. I hardly see any youngster in BJP ranks except for Varun Gandhi. Make sure Varun Gandhi shuns his extremist approach and plays a similar role as Rahul Gandhi in energizing the youth. I dont see the BJP youth wing as active as Congress youth wing.
I think it is high time BJP should should start the organisation from grass root level . BJP should concentrate on states like Tamilnadu,Kerala,West Bengal from day one that is today .
Friends Of BJP cane open friends of BJP chapter in each city and village . It should not wait until next Loksabha election is announced . Slow and steady wins the race . It is the battle that has been lost not the war….
Keep up the good work friends ..atleast for sake of better India…
First step,enable comment moderation. Delete the comments of MSSUBRAMANIAM and vasu above.
About the results, Advaniji got it exactly right in the third phase of polling. Turnout in gujarat was low and he spoke about that. His own margin is less than a lakh votes when even Varun Gandhi won with some 3 lakh margin.
But Advaniji made the wrong diagnosis to suggest polling in winter. Nope.
BJP needs to do better booth level management in lower and upper middle class areas. I will expand later.
Hi Friends Of BJP
We have nothing to feel bad we are a Part of a Part which is “Work in progress ” for a party which was established only in the 1990’s I think its fabulous what BJP has done till date
Having said the above I belive the step ahead could be
1)Focus on an image change -If BJP is a Non secular party it should be said more than anything else
2)We have to have a better standing with the Media which is one sided - Priyanka Gandhi did the TV interviews and came on Outlook not by chance but there was planned PR from visit to Nalani in jail to the emotional interviews
3)BJP must stop talking what others did WRONG applaud the good and just focus on what is best for the country -its not professional to talk ill of your competators - 26/11 was a time where Congress should more maturity than the BJP in the eyes of the generalpublic
4) BJP needs to be in the lime light and constantly do its “GOOD PR ”
Congratulations to Karnataka for coming out highest in terms of seats that BJP won in a single state
Lets MOVE forward - We are Winners and our time has come !!
Regards
Nikki
I have a post on :
Reinvent the BJP: Does the BJP have a ‘Yes We Can’ generation?
The URL is: http://india15august.blogspot.com/2009/05/reinvent-bjp.html
To please all the BJP supporters, let me say it in your own words.
Dharma prevailed in the land of Rama.
Good won over evil.
And the country is in the hands of able leadership.
Political correctness. Like it or not, that’s what Congress does best. Urban India hates any talk that can be remotely construed as divisive, and the Congress-loving media will do anything in their power to amplify and twist BJP words out of context. An emphasis on moderation in speech will go a long way in removing misconceptions that people has of the party.
In the same vein, the BJP has not been aggressive enough about dissociating itself from the religious right-wing (Rama Sena, Shiv Sena, etc). Whole number of young, urban voters (at least in the south) were influenced by the ridiculous Mangalore pub and ensuing incidents. It has to be made clearer that the party is not violent or anti-progressive, and more people should speak up against the media which labels the BJP as “Hindu nationalist”. Pair the fundamental BJP ideals with those that appeal to youth voters, while showing that they are not inconsistent!
I don’t think aggressive internet marketing is the key. Unless it is done tastefully, it can be off-putting — many people I know were irritated by the Ad Sense campaign. Instead, provide support to start chapters at colleges. Recruit educated, young supporters to speak intelligently and debate issues. Make better use of the media channels which _do_ support BJP. Use the internet in a principled way — recruit supporters to blog about key issues facing the country, and solutions that are in line with the party’s principles, _without_ seeming bipartisan. More and more city-dwellers are familiar with American politics and are equating the BJP with the GOP — take steps to make them realize that there is no comparison!
(In the end, all this may not even be necessary, after the Congress finishes its job of screwing up the place!)
I think the Friends of BJP shoud expand in terms of number of registered users. I think we need to overhaul this website make it more user friendly, more accomodative towards the young. We have to start registering the users of this site and build a strong block of say 10Lakh users, then we can act as a pressure group a force in our own right. What Iam trying to say is it is more important to build the organisation(FOBJP) on line than off line. We will have to update the content regularly and make it available for search engines with specific key words, when certain issue springs up (like the reservation )we will have to be more aggresive and identify ourselves with the cause of the middle classes.
As friends and suporters of BJP we are all taken aback, disappointed and saddened. We need to step back and see why we failed (again) to get the mandate. And how quickly we can recover and get back on track.This we must absolutely do.BJP is a party in the making and we must ensure that we start working now on:
1)Improving our media image - its pathetic how BJP is presented in the English media. We need to get a better PR cell who OVER manages the press and media.
2)We need to focus on our achievements and not go on about the weakness of others.This bashng of the PM was appalling -not required - it wasdone in very poor light.
3)Numbers dont lie -BJP needs to show its performance by sharing numbers (eg of improived literacy rates in Gujurat),BJP rules states having good NREGA implementations etc
Focus on BJPs strength and not the weakness of others.BJP needs to get more 30 somethings in and visible.
BJP is known for its non-dynastic politics -we must ensure that this does not creep into the party. THis is one thing that BJP has to its credit which cannot be criticised.
So lets work now for a better future, for a better future for BJP, for India and its people.
We BJP find strength to carry on!
Viva
For any party to succeed internal discipline and unity is important. BJP party cadres and workers and leaders need to understand that. Every body was saying that BJP is going to loose in Rajasthan, one wonders why the party leadership has failed to take any steps to overcome the loss. Vasundhara Raje has become more or less a gone case. Rajasthan lost 20 seats for BJP. BJP leaders ship need to change Vasundhara Raje and replace some body who can do some hard work and turn around their fortunes. Also, the party needs to expland in AP, Kerala, WB, TN.
Minority Appeasement has worked wonders for congress. Sonia and Rahul have understood the weekness of BJP. They have effectively attacked the weekness of BJP. The weekness of BJP is that muslims are against it across the lenght and breadth of the country.
Wondering why Advani didn’t attack Sonia when she said that he is a slave of RSS. People are watching and these kinds of attacks expose the weakness of a leader.
I think there are few factors that worked for the Congress in these elections
a) Return of the Muslim vote with the Congress
b) Movement of the so called secular urban middle class to the Congress who were totally influenced by media’s version of the Varun Gandhi episode
c) General perception that the Congress has a better team to govern
d) Youth politics with all of the Baba’s father’s friend being projcted as youth candidates and COngress being projected as a forward looking party
I think few things needs to be done by the BJP
a) Launch a right wing TV channel to present their views. I don’t expect Rajdeep or Prannoy Roy to ever present a fair view given their strong ideological bent
b) Get back the educated urban middle class, which is now being heavuily influenced by media. I think here Friends of BJP can make a big difference
c)Be smart and do not give the opportunity to media to play their events. Christian emissary do whatever they want anf get away with it. BJP needs to do whatever it has to do more discreetly
d)Present a strong youth contingent. BJP will not have a galaxy of dynastic leaders to project as youth mascot and it needs to build that. So we should start projecting the youth leaders now
e) Prepare something like a shadow cabinet so that people believe that BJP can govern. I think all the votes for stability went to COngress
f) Lastly start preparing for the next elections. BJP needs to identify who will be their leader in the next elections and start building a base with that leader for the next elections
I think friends of BJP have a strong role to play to bring back the educated middle class to BJP. These people have moved to Congress on planks of secularism etc etc and need to be educated. It is so surprising that inspite of doing anything and showing huge amnount of ineptitude the UPA government has come back in sych a big fashion
I would say: why NDA.
when BJP doesnt even have 200 MPs . BJP should understand it has not grown at a national level compared to congress.
Lets polarise all hindus towards BJP and sincerely work for the Hindutuva ideology.
we can sweep polls not just once in 2014 but for ever.
How many failures were there in congress govt:
1. Inflation
2. Terror strikes
3. Sanchar commission report
4. commualising IIM/ IIT (by reservation)
5. Interference in CBI and make is congress bureau of investigation
6. Bring an unpopular president
7. Approving mardasas to CBSE
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we want a strong Hindu party, if that is the case - BJP alone can get 300 seats and form the govt.
Blame media is good for nothing. Modi beats anti bjp campaign.
BJP should be strong and rooted in Hindutuva
For starters,
1. Friends of BJP should play its role with various state governments ruled by BJP the role it wanted (or would have) to play if BJP was elected to power at center.
2. Let the Advani@campus be modified to FriendsOfBJP@campus to build the party at grassroot levels.
As a friend of BJP, what all we should do is to convince people of no interest in politics to vote for BJP by giving various facts. I was able to convince few and in future they also have decided to always vote & vote for BJP and to convince others.
Secondly its upto BJP leaders to do following 2 things.
1. Stop infighting. You can’t afford infighting now. I see a divide of BJP camp into 2 now. Rajnath and Narendra modi. If BJP divide further 2014 will be further disaster.
2. People vote based on performance of state govt. performance and not based on central issues. So BJP needs to win State elections and perform better. Sheila dixit, Nitish kumar performed good so they get votes even in central elections.
I hope somebody can pass above 2 pts to BJP leaders.
As a majority of India’s population that decide an election lives in rural areas, it wouldn’t make sense to focus solely on urban areas to make a difference that would affect the nation as a whole.
More over, the % of urban (and often called educated) people that ‘talk’ so much about how to improve, never follow through by taking the first step of voting.
It may be beneficial to see how Lok Satta is galvanizing grassroots for a much better democracy and empowerment.
I request friend of bjp to take this forward to the BJP think tank of the likes of Arun Jaitley, Arun Shourie etc to ensure that they have a stronger youth wing. Give tickets to youngsters. Reach out to campuses. Also there is a lesson to learn for the BJP in this elections. BJP was really poor in sending across the message of poor governance of UPA. Frequent attack on Manmohan Singh worked in his favour. We could mellow down at the same time send across the message to the voters. It would take a lot of time for the BJP to have a presence in TN,AP, BENGAL. The regional parties are really really strong. Congress has been there since we got Independence and has they have no problem even though their strength has come down substantially in TN and West Bengal.
Badbolapan aur akdupan le duba BJP ko. Party image and leaders image are very critical. BJP won in 1999 because of atalji image. You need to be polite, down to earth and soft speaking…I knew this..advani ji had acceptability issues. why did party force adavniji on the country…? Varun episode did not help. Modi as PM did not help. Modi campaigning in other states did not help. Arey BJP ke netayon…jameeni neta bano…logon ke beech rahna aur kam karna seekho…leaders should be accessible to its people so that they can look upon to their elected leaders..Arey ab congress se hee kuch seekho. You need to talk about poor and farmers. BJP should train its cadres and leadres on regular basis. How come BJP was not able to give its message to the people. BJP has peception issues. BJP ran negative campiagn and raise so maany non issue items in front of the public..I kept saying..weak PM, majboot neta etc..all are ir relevant issues to the public…no one listened to me. India is not USA..BJP ran campaign for high level thinking people. Arey bhai 100 crore logon ke thinking alag hoti hai…every individual is different in India. BJP could not give an alternative force to India..what all BJP did for last 5 years.?
We all worte good articles….
WE all spoke good words….
But we did not do our core ground working…
1.Forget the past (very difficult,I know)
2.Plan for Maharashtra
3.Setup a TV channel
Please make sure (y)our strongholds today - ie., Karnataka, Gujarat etc., are retained. Use local leaders to ensure there is development, constructive thinking, communication and positive reinforcement of progressive and growth oriented policies.
In other states begin by demonstrating humbleness and initiate development works that benefit all the communities. Pursue core objectives but avoid open discriminations or violent disagreements. Deal with unfairness and inequality in a polite way
BJP needs to work at grassroot levels in Tamila Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Kerala! These three stats contribute a sizable number of seats which can offset loses at elsewhere!!
BJP must hold regular meetings and improve its presence in these states! BJP has managed to gain substantial number of votes in many constituencies of TN, had it worked well before, it would have managed to win more! We shouldn’t depend on allies in such states anymore!
BJP does need a national media channel, which would report unbiased news!
BJP leaders must stop media from addressing BJP as a communal party.
BJP must have run a very strong ad campaign to remove this misconception of it being an anti muslim party!
BJP needs to moderate itself if it wants to win. Atalji won elections and allies because of his moderate image. He was seen to be a decent person, not only by BJP supporters but also by BJP’s opponents i.e. Muslims, Left, Media etc. That played a big role in attracting the moderate voters. As MJ Akbar says “India is secular because Hindus are secular, not because Muslims are secular”, so we BJP cant keep beating the so called “pseudo secular” bogey to win elections.
It has to offer a positive agenda & seen to be a moderate right wing party & not a Hindu Fundamentalist party, only then will it attract enough votes to have a chance of winning elections.
The large majority of the Urban Middle & Upper class, hate the extreme elements in BJP, & that turns people off. I think Friends of BJP has a role to play in ensuring BJP gets this message, & help BJP project a moderate face. Shekhar Gupta’s article seems all the more relevant today post the results of this elections.
Some of the key tasks I see for us on the right in general.
1. Expand BJP’s social base, by reaching out beyond its traditional strongholds, i.e. Dalits, Backward Castes etc. E.g. Sarath Babu from Chennai a classic rags to riches story slums of Chennai to IIM-Ahemedabad, should have been roped into BJP.
2. Build an organisation that reaches each locality e.g. Flat, residential society etc. To both reach out to people & build a base among new people. Community organising is big in the US, I guess we could replicate something similar in the urban areas at least.
3. Build the party in states that it doesnt exist or has lost its way, i.e. AP, UP, Orissa, TN, WB, Kerala. Strengthen itself in states where it has allies, but who could dump BJP in future, e.g. Mah, Bihar, Punjab, Haryana, etc.
4. Modernise the party organisation, think about doing open primaries, blooding new talent, removing now performers e.g. Bandaru Dattetreya, etc.
5. For the right, lets build a right wing infrastructure, to influence the National discourse e.g. Think tanks, Media, people in Government, journalists, academicians who would espouse the right wing ideas etc. We could learn from how the US right wing built itself in the 50’s onwards that helped push the US rightward.
6. Build an organisation to reach out to the poor, both Urban & Rural. How about a network of quality charitable schools & educational institutions catering to poor in both urban & rural areas? It will help BJP build a base & also help act as a bulwark against Evangelicals. Similarly self help groups, vocational training that helps poor people earn a regular income.
7. Also most importantly as Piyush said, more doing less talking.
Doubling down on Hindutva or trying to project leaders like Narendra Modi, will only take us backward.
Ram
I guess its wrong to blame the media for our debacle. Yes agreed that the media is biased in their reporting. When you have a strong message whatever media tries to do would not work. Remember the campaigns of BJP in 2004 Elections. They used media extensively with the slogan “India Shining” and ” Feel good Factor”. Did that work??? it did not. Whereas the Congress Slogan of ” Bijli Sadak Paani” and ” Aam Admi” worked inspite of them not having used media extensively. In one of the videos i was watching of friends of bjp meet, Sri.Arun Jaitley rightly pointed out the importance of a strong message. He quoted an instance during Emergency when lakhs of people assembled to listen to JP’s Speech in Delhi inspite of Media barring any attention towards the meet.
बीजेपी को हिंदुत्व को बचाने और छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता (pseudo secularism)के मामले को लेकर सभी छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्ष दलों और नेताओं के नीतियों की पोल खोलनी होगी . इन विषयों को लेकर आज की मीडिया जगत से अपेक्षा नहीं की जा सकती कि वह बीजेपी की मदद करेगी .क्योंकि सभी न्यूज़ चैनल्स कांग्रेस द्वारा दिए गए एजेंडे पर काम करती हैं .
छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता (pseudo secularism) एक गंभीर राष्ट्रीय मुद्दा है जो कि राष्ट्रीय संकट पैदा कर सकता है ,बल्कि यूं कहें कर रहा है .छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता बीजेपी की छवी ख़राब कर रहा है और देश को संकट में भी डालने वाला है .एक तो देश में अंधाधुंध धर्म परिवर्तन हो रहा है और दूसरी तरफ बंगलादेशियों की देश में अवैध घुसपैठ . ये दो मामले ऐसे हैं जिसपर छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्ष कहे जाने वाले दल वोट बैंक पॉलिटिक्स के कारण चुप्पी साधे हुए हैं .
कांग्रेस पक्षपाती(cong. biased) मीडिया द्वारा लगातार बीजेपी पर divisive पॉलिटिक्स करने का आरोप लगाया जाता रहा है .जब कि सच यह नहीं है ,divisive पॉलिटिक्स कांग्रेस द्वारा लगातार की जाती रही है और आगे भी यह अब और तेजी से बढ़ने वाली है .जो देश का प्रधान मंत्री १०० करोड़ हिन्दुओं के देश को यह कहने की हिम्मत कर सकता है कि देश के संसाधनों पर पहला अधिकार मुस्लिमो
का है वह आगे क्या क्या करेगा और कहेगा इस बात का आसानी से अंदाजा लगाया जा सकता है .इसलिए इन सब विषयों को लेकर बीजेपी को अपना अलग न्यूज़ चैनल शुरू करने की जरुरत है .क्योंकि वर्त्तमान में जितने भी न्यूज़ चैनल्स हैं वो इस मामले में बीजेपी की मदद नहीं कर रहे हैं और न आगे कर सकते हैं .
Yes, BJP certainly needs to set up a TV channel. BJP has powerful supporters in industry and business. This really should not be hard for the BJP to arrange. This channel should focus on removing misconceptions about the BJP without being a campaign mouthpiece like Jaya TV. It should be a 100% commercial venture, with an eye on profits.
Friends of BJP can help only if BJP chooses to help itself.
The comforting factor is that this is not the first time that BJP has faced such an event.It has virtually risen from the ashes in 1984 in the face of a formidable force that was pitted against BJP at that time. Whilst Congress and UPA need to be commended for their achievement, they are in no formidable position politically as they were before.
But BJP today lacks the leadership and the organization that did this resurrection bravely and relentlessly. I say this in the context of the desire expressed by Shri. Advani to quit. Indeed in offering to quit he is awakening the organization to the need for a big dose of revamp. This revamp is not a mere change of faces but the consequence of a cohesive strategy to raise BJP from a party perceived to represent sectarian and regional interests. There is a need for BJP to acquire a Pan India presence and it may be a good idea to deliver this through alliances. Alliances must be considered as a part of long term strategy and not necessarily a tactical move for an election.
The 2009 Election has highlighted two clear imperatives for success in elections. A party should be politically seen as not divisive. It should have economic policies that are compassionate to the millions of our country men who struggle for simple living. This may sound as motherhood statements.The task is to carry this perception to the people across India and on this perception seek their vote. The perception should be converted to conviction by actual performance when people repose faith in the party in the elections.
I hope the leadership of the Party will conduct such a fundamental examination apart from voting trend analysis. The latter is a lag indicator and the lead indicator is exploring the ways to win the faith of people.
My thoughts on the BJP’s defeat:
1. LKA needs to go, Vajpayee did not get muslim votes but he also ensured that muslims didn’t hate him and like MJ Akbar said today, Hindus are intrinsically secular. So while muslims didnt vote for him, they didn’t go out of their way to defeat BJP candidates the way they did in 2004 and now.
2. Please Please Please build a base in states like AP, Tamil Nadu and UP. I live in AP and Bandaru Dattareya has been forever with nothing to show for it. Venkaiah Naidu is a wonderful orator and mass leader but is unwilling to do anything in AP and has moved to a central role. There are 42 seats in AP, 40 odd in Tamil Nadu how can you possibly expect to win without building a base here?
3. Change the focus from psuedo-secularism to governance, be a positive party, use your network to build goodwill among people, RSS runs over 400 schools use your resources to expand that and provide education and improve your party’s image.
4. Most of the congress “youth” are all second generational leaders, invite more youth to join your party and even in areas where you are not in power let your MLA’s help people.
Being out of power is not a bad thing, you can focus on building your party, so do that. I met a local RSS leader in AP and asked him about BJP neglecting the state and he said CBN wiped out the party and it was a disaster for BJP in the state, if that indeed was the case what did they do in the last 5 years?
छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता (pseudo secularism) बीजेपी के लिए ही नहीं वरन देश के लिए भी यह एक बड़ी समस्या है .यदि छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता वादियों की पोल देश के सामने खोलने में बीजेपी सफल हो जाती है तो बीजेपी की आधी समस्या यहीं ख़त्म हो सकती है .
Rajesh - I am not a supporter of BJP but I think
Friends of BJP has done a great job and it should keep associating with Indian politics.
The most important actions Friends of BJP can do is to influence BJP to moderate its stand.
Hindu vote is a myth.I would have voted for BJP has they thrown out Varun Gandhi. In fact BJP would have gained tremendously had they acted upon Varun Gandhi even if they had lost elections.
Keep doing the good work Rajesh and right options will emerge for BJP and for all of us.
Vishal
Hi friends,
the results are really dis heartning & shocking,we lost very badly in delhi.as earlier also i had given my view that youth( 18-24yrs) have not voted at all for the BJP,we are not able to bring them in support of our party, we should start a support base from the college & nurture new dyanmic youth leaders who can bring youth closer to the BJP,other major reason is the upper middle class had a feeling that Dr Manmohan singh was the best person who can bail India out of this reccesion, we were not able to present our policies & programmes to them at all, here its a failure of the local workers & leaders, also this time sikhs also voted whole heartedly for the congress because of Dr Manmohan singh as our ad compaign of weak leader, went against us. this is my personal view as had talks with lot of my sikh friends & this was there feed back. we must start rebiulding our party from the college level & create the confidence inthe my minds of people that BJP works for the nation,where there is no place of corruption,hatred & terrorism.
RAjesh
Also as I said in your blog the focus has to be on
poor of India along with middle class.
If the focus is only on middle India then it will be difficult to succeed.
Vishal
We need to setup up a English and Hindi News channels.
We need people with electronics background and some top technologist to see whether the EVM’s are tampered with. I am from TN i can surely say EVM,s were tampered with.
Some of my poling officers and presiding officers of the booth told me EVM,s were tampered and rigging was allowed.
Please enlighten me what moderation of BJP means? Wasn’t it the ram janma bhoomi movement that gave 162 seats to the BJP? What would be the difference between BJP & congress if we stop talking abt minorityism, pseudo secularism? If today Gayatri Mantra is being played in the Spas’ its thanks to BJP coz nowadays people are a bit proud of being what they are!
I mean being in the power or grabbing it by stooping isnt the intention is it? I have both muslim & christian friends and Iam sure Iam not communal and Iam sure BJP is the only secular party coz they are the only ones’ preaching for UCC, dont you see the irony?
This election wasn’t rejection of BJP’s ideology– these days everyone talks abt development so thats not a distinguishing feature for BJP anymore!! Congress grew by eating into 3rd front & fourth front. People chose congress bcoz BJP was a house divided in many states like Rajasthan, Delhi & Uttarakhand!! BJP lost this election bcoz of organisational failure and the full responsiblity for the failure must be placed on Rajnath Singh he just stooped too low really!!
As it turns out people aren’t bothered abt the foreign policy, black money, weak PM blah blah blah.. I back BJP bcoz I belive “nation first” theory of theirs but to many Indians its their family/caste/religion first hence congress will keep winning if somehow BJP don’t blur those lines.
I mean guys you really have to stand for what you believe in and tough times are a test for the resilience, you cant change the ideology of the party over night and Iam sure most of you will agree that godhra and varun isn’t part of that ideology. BJP always stood for nation building with a respect to the Indian culture and Iam sure it always will stay that way.
Some good suggestions have been made. I am sure there will be several more contributions too. Apart from what Viva and others have suggested, I feel that people at large need to change their perception about the ideology that BJP follows. The best ideology is one that can be practiced by most. No doubt that in the recent elections, ideologies took a back seat and it became a distinctively personalised battle, but when it came to bashing BJP, every political party raised one singular issue - the issue of an imaginary “divisive”, “partisan”, “communal”, “hidden agenda” of the BJP. For far too long has the BJP allowed this to go unchallenged. For far too long has it allowed a term like HINDUTVA to be bandied about as meaning communal. It has allowed the term to be construed as communal and divisive, and the opposition has used it effectively to isolate BJP from the youth and urban public at large, not to talk of the minorities becoming natural adversaries. It has come to be stuck with the image of BJP as being communal and divisive. I know this is not true, and I keep explaining to whoever raises this issue with me. The alarming fact however is that most people have come to be brainwashed to believe that BJP is not a forward looking, moving with times and does not believe in inclusive polity. A simple solution for rebuilding its image may perhaps be to:
1. Start using the term “Bhartiyata” and drop the word “Hindutva”. Whenever opposition tries to associate partisanship by insinuating that BJP is following an agenda of “Hindutva”, counter it aggressively, and not by defending or obfuscating the indefensible, like actions of Ram Sena or Bajrang Dal or any action by any body that attempts to drive a wedge between communities.
2. Any such action should be forcefully condemned, and BJP cadres should approach the victims with help, like the RSS cadres do at times of natural calamities. This is easily possible in states where BJP is in power.
3. BJP governed states should be modeled and efficiently governed on the pattern that it envisages for the whole country. ‘Practice what we preach’. A friendly, open, responsive, transparent but firm governance is possible and for BJP run states - a must. Ramrajya!!
4. BJP should not play a negative role in the Lok Sabha or in state assemblies where it is in opposition. It should act as a responsible opposition with impeccable conduct. It does not have to voice opposition to each and every issue. It does not have to rush into the well or shout slogans, just to be seen and heard and adversely reported by media. Clarity and force of well articulated debate is far more effective that creating a din.
5. We should keep in constant communication with groups, individuals and conduct meetings at the ground Zero level. It is a common complaint that once elected, people become insular. BJP should be seen different, particularly when people generally have come to believe that the only way to get things done is by “fixing” it.
6. Friends of BJP should meet periodically, interact with each other and with elected representatives, whereby information can be shared and used, both for propagation/dissemination but also for better understanding and governance.
thecount: BJP is losing because it is seen as an upper caste Hindu party, there are lots of poor, lower caste Hindus who feel that Hinduism has failed them and are easy fodder for conversions, that needs to change these communities need to be engaged and helped and by that I dont mean education, i mean helping them get education and earn a livelihood.
RSS runs 400 schools in the country that needs to be expanded dramatically, BJP needs to win people’s hearts with it’s actions
We need to be in a strong position in the next elections not because the Congress screwed up but because we are better.
Friends:
My first post here. I came to know of this site after the debacle. I had hoped for a BJP win, knowing very well that Rahul Gandhi would make a difference this time. Even a broken clock is correct couple of times a day. We all have some great suggestions here. What we lack is the operational capability to implement..
What we need is focus, message and immediate action.. Focus - Maharsahtra. Start with that great state and it could be the beggining of many more.. Remember BJP ruled states on the whole did well.. Don’t sully yourself.. I am not in India which makes it difficult to do something at the grass roots level.. Is there anything at the organizational level that can be done in UK/US…Who do I go to?
Friends,
I was disheartened about BJP’s loss. Acknowledging Congress’s victory, my assessment is BJP is lost and needs to be revamped. Not sure whether they had a strategy at all. I believe it pays more to say what you will do than debunk others with the “gudiya” kind of politics.
a) A younger profile is needed. BJP needs to start projecting and connecting with the younger population just as Congress has been pursuing. Does BJP have any politicians like Rahul, Sachin, Milind or Krishna Byre Gowda? It was refreshing to see Nalin representing BJP on TV. BJP should also start the trend of retiring politicians at 70. No offense to senior citizens, but this can be a branding building exercise.
b) There is a lot of focus of development. Most urban citizens and users of the Web are concerned about infrastructure and industry, etc. Less than half the Urban population voted in Bangalore. Given that even Naidu had lost a decade ago, it is prudent to introduce and make a noise of measures that far reaching benefits for the rural population. Rural votes is what really matters. This doesn’t mean ignore the industries, cities, etc. In addition to this, there must be a big noise “AND” ACTION for the rural.
c) It is surprising that even after two decades BJP has little or no presence in states like Kerala, WB, Tamil Nadu. When will they even start contesting here, doesn’t matter even if they lose, but in the long term it will pay off. You have to start somewhere.
d) As an ardent BJP supporter, I am peeved with all these Sri Ram Sena, etc. Even Hinduism is about tolerance and these guys can’t force their beliefs and values on us. “What is forced is not forceful”. I think BJP needs to come clean of such rogue organizations like Ram Sena, MNS, etc.
e) It was disgusting to witness how BJP tried to capitalize on 26/11. BJP should transcend into mature politics.
f) In BJP ruled states, ensure clean administration, pro-rural reforms, infrastructure development, and IT Governance. Publish reports, invite media to talk about these states.
g) Start on a Brand building exercise. Thanks to Rajiv’s death, the Congress need to defend the 84 atrocity unlike Modi who now has to defend Godhra. But never mind, start on a Brand building exercise soon. Recruit educated people.
Finally, it is Karmanye Vadhikarasthe….
Good Luck.
FoBJP was great effort. You did your best. On what we should do:
1) Go local. Start local units in various companies/organizations/college campuses, and encourage its members to get involved in the local level decision making process.
This should immediately help BJP to recover in Maharashtra and Delhi.
2)Help the existing BJP governments (e.g. Karnataka) to plan and *implement* their policies. (planning is easier than implement it)
I am ready do volunteer.
The real difference was the absence of a personality like Vajpayee. It was Vajpayee who made the urban middle class vote for the BJP. The current leadership is no match to the stature of Vajpayee.
The BJP should stop its anti-minority posturiing to win an election in India.
You bunch of lunatics you’ve LOST
Come out of hate
Start to love
Think as human being, not as hindu or musalman
Religious hatred apart all are human beings..
Hope you guys understand …
@ Rissie
What on earth are u talkin abt? Does BJP hate Muslims? I didn’t knew that!!
We do hate corruption, babudom, reservation based on caste/religion etc etc… but we do not hate other fellow Indians.
BJP has not performed bad..It has lost 14 seats thought.But Cong has done very well. Yes I hope for more BJP seats but I am sure people have not learnt the lesson still. Not blaming congr or minority , its the psuedo secular middle class Hindus to blame. They are just hiding behind doors by posing themselves as modern or secular.
I am not telling to be anti minority but be pro Hindus but not destructively. And BJP is not only about Hindutva . They stand for visionary ideas, methodical executions and self respect and reliance.
The good side of this election is RJD, SP, communist have been showed their doors. But share of seats not materialised by BJP is a regret.
But still BJP is great party with great leaders who have will to improve rather than just run the country.
The main reason of failure of BJP during 2009 election was the lack of firmness and decisive leadership against the opposition which has consistently tried to malign the reputation of core Hindutava party from achieving the success in the current election. It was noted during the most of election even the BJP key leadership was confused and lacked to provide the credible alternative to the present government. To press my point I would like to highlight some of the key areas where the firm stand was required and was missing during the entire election campaign.
Pseudo-secularism vs. Hindutava.
The main reason of debacle of the BJP lies in diversion from the principle adopted by the party during early days BJP and RSS to present itself as the alternative to the present UPA government. The party was continuously diverting from its principle ideology of Hindutva which it identified during the Ayodhya movement.
Mr. L K Advani visit to the mausoleum Md. Ali Jinnah was one such incident which has made a big dent in the house of BJP itself. Many BJP friends were shaken by this act of the Mr. L. K. Advani. And not only his visit but his speech made most of the Hindus to think otherwise for Mr. Advani. The party had to find an alternative leader after Mr. Vajpayee left the ruins of the party other than Mr. Advani. Mr. Narendra Modi or Late Mr. Pramod Mahajan could be alternatives and would have made a credible difference in the party outlook as the core Hindu party.
The incidents like post Godhara riots, and Kandhahar which were hunting the BJP during the entire election campaign and made mockery of the party as the party lacked the tone and firmness on their part to highlight the opposition misadventure to put party on the back foot. The speaker after speaker from the BJP failed to highlight the failures on the part of UPA government and success of the BJP run governments in the different states.
When the media and opposition were making most from the post Godhara riots, the party refused to highlight the plight of victims of the Godhara train incident. This made Mr. Narendra Modi to face the ire of media.
Consistently, when the Congress was highlighting the Kandhahar plane hijack issue; the BJP lacked the confidence in highlighting the Mumbai terrorist attacks which could have made the Congress venerable on the security and terrorism issues.
I failed to understand why BJP campaign lacked the issues of terrorism, the country faced terrorist attacks one after another and the issue was missing. This issue could have made the difference in the current tally of the BJP. The opposition was throwing issues one after another caught from the previous BJP government. But the identification of the UPA government failures was missing from the BJP campaign trail.
We thought that the BJP would highlight some of the burning issues related to the plight of the common men like high food prices, losing jobs.
There were issues related to Rajasthan leadership, where the BJP forgot to learn from the recent legislative assembly election where Ms. Vasundhara Raje was defeated badly. The leadership was not changed and hence the result in Rajasthan.
Kandhamal, Varun Gandhi episodes are some of the incident which would continue to hunt the BJP even in 2014 Lok Shabha election.
As the UPA leadership hit the NDA where it hurt the most and drawn issues from the last BJP government. I would urge the current leadership of the BJP to start gathering UPA weakness. I would like to urge the current leadership of the BJP oppose the policies of the current UPA government vehemently wherever and whenever possible. Sitting in opposition would not allow the BJP to highlight their performance, but to highlight the weakness of the current UPA government.
The major issue facing the party is to identify a new leadership that could sail the BJP from the present state of affairs and could keep the party together during these hard times.
Nine Point Agenda for Revival
1. Creating party strong organizational bases in states like Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and Kerala.
2. Strengthening the existing the party organizational bases in states like Rajasthan, Punjab, Hariyana, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh and Bengal.
3. Training of the strategic media team to present the party line in more stronger and convincing terms across the states to address the local media and national media. Strong media cell is the need of hour.
4. Holding rallies, meetings and to highlight the burning issues at large.
5. Highlighting issues like terrorism, price hike, plight of common men wherever and whenever possible.
6. Formulation of the programs and policies that could be identified directly with the common men.
7. Avoidance of any situation that could allow Congress and other opposition parties to make an issue with.
8. Creation of aggressive and convincing mass leaders at the grass root level.
9. Start preparing from now for 2014 Lok Shabha election and state election due in the coming days.
The BJP lost not bcoz it did too bad, but bcoz it didnt do too good as an opposition.
The congress won not bcoz it did good but bcoz it didnt do too bad as a government
Some points to note which confused voters:
1. Strategically unclear - hard hindutwa or soft liberal. It wanted to keep both planks ….and the Indian public is not a fool anymore.
2. No new face - Advaniji was old and should have been complemented by a new young team. He had the same old team. Esp wen one sees that the congress has mixed manmohan singh with Rahul…
3. Ignorance of Uttar Pradesh for a long time. This was a good time to captue which the congress did. The people of UP were looking for changes, which BJP failed to read.
4. The BJP continues to ignore aam Karyakarta. The party is no more driven by Karyakarta as it used to be and was known to be. The BJPs main strength was Karyalarta which it has lost ever since it has come to power at center and in states.
5. The party needs to forget policy of power for some time and just work at the organizational levels.
6. The party has won in MP, Karnataka due to momentum …it can loose them any time..
7. Leaders of BJP still looked as power hungry. Power politics has led to infighting and giving wrong signals.
8. Some strategic mistake of Advaniji in criticizing Manmoan Singh as weak. It should have been left to the public to realise this point.
9. Failure of BJP to come up positively on security and economic issues . These two issues could have brought it victory which it failed to encash.
12. Varun may have won for himself but the party lost due to him. It only led the people to be confused about the real identity of BJP. NO one votes fo a doubtful party.
BJP lost because of Six Big Reasons
1. Pathetic Messaging: It had good messages, but its promises were not believed by the electorate. For instance, the issue of security was blunted by Congress, as it repeatedly brought up the Kandahar issue. As I watched several debates on TV, I saw BJP leaders squirm whenever Kandahar was brought up. Frankly, Shri LKA was not percieved as majboot netaa, and his actions in past were not considered to be nirnayak.
2. Weak Opposition: Over last five years, the BJP had done a pathetic job as an opposition. For instance, I have a feeling, that on the issue of nuclear deal, BJP actually bailed out Congress (several of BJP’s members did not vote against it). Ditto for terrorism, corruption (Natwar Singh), Quattrochi, …. I really do not understand as to what constrained BJP to come out in total open against UPA over last 5 yrs.
3. Fratricidal Wars: Between diverse elements of Sangh parivar, and also within BJP. The loss of Rajasthan assembly (and now Lok Sabha) should be sufficient for illustrative purposes.
Zero Presences in UP: In 1997, BJP had 50 seats from UP. In 2004, it had 10. Today it has 12. Do you think that this does not matter!!! UP is a game changer. BJP can ignore it only to its own peril.
4. Cultural: Indian culture is seeing very fundamental challenges, as the really “cool” stuff is beamed down thru TV channels which promote extreme versions of Western lifestyles and values. While the average Indian has not yet adopted these mores in very large numbers, the cultural elite of India (which also imo includes regular IT folks) consciously or unconsciously set the aspirational standards and goals for the aam aadmi. And the image projected by BJP as a party is inconsistent with what is hip in the eyes of aam aadmi (remember Massey Sahib). Thus the regular urban school/college going youth, I have a feeling, is emotionally not engaged with Hindu organization/ ideology. This is a long term challenge, which will only amplify with passage of time, unless an effective strategy is crafted and put in place to dull the impact of this important element.
5. Leadership: The BJP has to find taller leaders than Rajnath Singh and Sushma Swaraj for example.
6. Youth appeal: BJP has to appeal to the youth and can never hope to carry the youth forward if its sister outfits like the Shri Ram Sene continue to attract negative attention which is well nigh avoidable. Look at the youth and find someone they can identify themselves with. Package the message well and reach out to new voter bases.
These are the implicit lessons of verdict 2009
I personally feel the BJP has also lost the vote of the youth due to people like rahul gandhi who have projected themselves as pro youth and for another reason look at the tvs,papers they’ve all sold their soul to the congress.Look at times(of indiap and the news channel).I mean the times of india carries headlines like “congress has a chance to form the government “c’mon man they’ve totally sold their soul.Now look at times now that when the anchor always cuts the bjp leaders short-like after 26/11 when he was critisizing the congress government it was ok but as soon as arun jaitley pointed out the exact same thing he started saying not to politiscize matters like this.I mean that’s called double standards and that’s what a 16 yr old boy will get influenced by.
Finally, in states like Mahahrashtra, I guess the BJP-Shiv Sena alliance is hurt by the MNS.I am ofcource not going to mention the communal tag the BJP has to live with even though all the parties indulge in such politics.
BJP has now become a party that stands for nothing. Five years ago, it went into the election packaging itself as the party of India Shining. When that avatar failed, it retreated so sharply from taking credit for the achievements of Emerging India that it almost abandoned its middle class supporters.
It could have gone the whole hog and occupied the Congress’ position as the party of the common man, but the BJP has lacked the imagination to make that jump. Even those who support the party do not believe that it has any special commitment to those at the margins of our society, the landless labourers, the hungry farmers, etc.
Instead, its leaders make fun of the Congress’ love of subsidies and sops for the poor, and speak of the importance of the market and of liberalisation.
But even that position now seems out of sync with the times now that the global capitalist system is in decline. This is not a good time to represent the free market.
The Congress’ determination to abandon solid economic principles and to write off loans and subsidise prices, which seemed like foolishness two years ago, now appears to have been prescient.
That leaves the BJP with its traditional issue: the rights of Hindus. But this poses problems of its own. How do you stand up for Hindus when there is no evidence that they are being discriminated against? The BJP’s rise to prominence during the 1980s came at a time when the hard secularism of the Congress (Shah Bano, The Satanic Verses, Babri Masjid, etc.) had provoked a Hindu backlash. These days, however, there is no backlash. Nobody seriously believes that Muslims have a terrific deal in India or that Hindus are suffering.
Early attempts by the BJP to link Muslims with terrorism and to awaken Hindu insecurities have failed. Nobody seriously disputes that some Muslims are involved in terrorism. But equally, hardly anyone sees this as a reflection on the whole Muslim community. Nor is there any sense in which the terrorism is specifically directed at Hindus. Muslims also die in bomb blasts and the worst terrorism takes place in such Muslim countries as Pakistan, where the jihadis delight in killing their own people. On the other hand, the BJP’s covert Muslims-are-terrorists agenda has prevented the party from making any inroads into the Muslim community. Five years ago, the BJP bragged that Muslims would vote for it at the General Election. (Advani even said that this was because his government had improved relations with Pakistan, leading to angry responses from Muslims, who accused him of questioning their patriotism.)
This time around, the party did not dare to make any such claims for itself. Muslims not only refused to support the BJP but they voted to tactically defeat BJP candidates.
Could things have been any different? Was there an alternative identity available to the BJP?
Actually, there was. This version of the BJP as the party of global capitalism is a relatively new invention. In the 1990s, a substantial chunk of the BJP and almost all of the RSS were deeply suspicious of globalisation. Such leaders as Murli Manohar Joshi (sidelined by the current leadership) wanted the BJP to become the party of Indian enterprise. They were for liberalisation they said. They were just not in favour of globalisation.
A second strand consisted of the Swadeshi Jagran Manch and such ideologues as S. Gurumurthy (and Ananth Kumar, in the days when he actually believed in something), which argued that India was making a huge mistake by allowing foreign companies to dominate our markets.
It is not that these people were right, only that they offered an alternative viewpoint to the Manmohan Singh position, which the BJP eagerly embraced and made its own. Given the current state of the global capitalist system, the Swadeshis have a right to be smug.
If the BJP had paid more attention to their views, it would have had a distinctive economic policy, one that would have been more suited to these difficult times.
But because the BJP so closely modelled itself on the Narasimha Rao era-Congress (fair enough; Rao was probably India’s first BJP Prime Minister in many ways), it rejected all of the policies that could have given it an identity that went beyond memories of the Rath Yatra.
Now, it finds itself without a plank, without an identity, and with no issues to fight elections on. It have no vision of India to implement if it ever gets to office.
These issue should be addressed under a sincere, honest and intelligent leadership which can unleash the true potential which lies latent in the BJP formation.
But, is there the genuine urge and the leadership to take it forward?
@ hi ‘the count’
Is that your nick name
Hey I was glad that you love fellow Indians.
Good on you.
But sorry mate, I’ve seen lot of hatred & venom from my fellow Indians (from Sang Parivar) towards Indians of muslims and christian faith.
On the same line I dont like Islamic terrorism.
But let me tell you that we are a minority , live in fear, dont have any representation (like Sang parivar or BJP).
So I felt happy when you told that you love fellow Indians..
Great going guys.
Let me tell you that I’m a friend of congress. I have always been so since my early teenage. I was really worried, that BJP might have learned some lessons from debacle in 2004 and might pose a challenge for my beloved party. But after the results and the comments on this post, I’m assured, you people are never going to learn anything.
Be caught in history forever.
You would speak about Somnath temple that was distroyed in 1100
You would speak about babari masjid that was constructed in 1400
You would speak about ram sethu that was constructed no one knows when.
BJP and sangh parivaar have very competentaly demonstrated that they never had nor will ever have vision for future.Because RSS shskha brainwashes you people to always look back and be nostalgic about the past.
And that suits us, friends of congress. Nehru, Lal Bahadur, Rajeev , Narasimha Rao all were forward looking and talked about future. And Manmohan Singh is doing same. Because they know that future is where we all would be. There is no point in turning back in the history.
So friends of BJP, wish you all a nice and long chintan.
Great going guys.
Let me tell you that I’m a friend of congress. I have always been so since my early teenage. I was really worried, that BJP might have learned some lessons from debacle in 2004 and might pose a challenge for my beloved party. But after the results and the comments on this post, I’m assured, you people are never going to learn anything.
Be caught in history forever.
You would speak about Somnath temple that was distroyed in 1100
You would speak about babari masjid that was constructed in 1400
You would speak about ram sethu that was constructed no one knows when.
BJP and sangh parivaar have very competentaly demonstrated that they never had nor will ever have vision for future.Because RSS shskha brainwashes you people to always look back and be nostalgic about the past.
And that suits us, friends of congress. Nehru, Lal Bahadur, Rajeev , Narasimha Rao all were forward looking and talked about future. And Manmohan Singh is doing same. Because they know that future is where we all would be. There is no point in turning back in the history.
So friends of BJP, wish you all a nice and long chintan. All the best for next round.
I commend the efforts of the Friends of the BJP during this election. However, I do believe that it needs to work at the ground level to educate the urban middle class about the BJP. There needs to be a on-the-ground physical presence. The internet and the SMS campaigns can only work to an extent. You have got to educate them the BJP isnt a party that has butchering the Muslims on its agenda and that also calls for a deft handling of the media and getting the message across to the middle classes which are most prone to political incorrect language (courtesy the ELM). Moreover, the Friends of the BJP needs to be a source for feedback to the central leadership so that there is a strong communication loop established between the party leadership and those that connect it with the masses. That is in my view, the best way to get a feel of the pulse of the people.
YOU ALL SHOULD KEEP DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOOD AT…..
CRYING BLAMING LYING SPREADING HATE AND OF’COURSE;
BITCHING LIKE A BUNCH OF LUNATIC INCESTUOUS SONS OF WHORES !
I have every reason to believe that Congress party has cheated the BJP like the Kauravas cheated Pandavas in the Mahabharata. The following are the pointers:-
1)The elevation of Naveen Chawla as Chief Election Commissioner. 2) The sudden decision of the Congress to fight the election alone. 3) There is already a report in friendsofbjp .org that Congress party will do mischief during poll and how BJP is going to tackle it? 4) Except Bihar and Karnataka BJP did not get the expected seats. 5) In Rajasthan, Uttaranchal, Delhi they swept the polls and they got 22 seats in UP.
The recent two incidences of mistake in counting(Mr.P. Chidambaram & Smt. Menaka Gandhi),which I have not heard earlier, after the introduction of the electronic machines. Perhaps it happened due to change in software. This indicates some hanky- panky while down loading the Data. All these cannot be taken lightly. Still If you are not getting the answer please contact me in my Email Address.
My Email address .tcgmenon@gmail.com
The anatomy of a disaster
I did not want to write this.. it hurts me more the longer I dwelve into this.. but then nevertheless if a bitter pill has to be taken to cleanse my system, so be it.. and thence I am writing this to remove from my system all the anger, frustration, depression that has got built in
The election results of this time circa 2009 AD for India are a disaster..
And yes.. I am biased.. I do not like Congress; and the irony is that they have come back to power much more comfortably than the previous time; and what this means is a whole lot of wrong things will get legitimacy
Dynastic rule, pseudo secularism, minority appeasement will continue in a big way; and I am sure that not many in this country would have wanted such a situation to happen, but then thanks to the way the indian democratic set up is, the shrewd, the slimy, the manipulative will always win;
Now the mumbaites and delhites should never complain about anything for the next 5 years ; never.. having voted enmasse for UPA, one should keep quite even if terror runs loose in your city or there is poor infrastructure; everyone deserves what they get
Infact the country itself looses any right to talk about dynastic rule; we deserve our misery;
I can very well tell you what the future is going to be
We will soon be having one more from the nehru-gandhi clan getting annointed as the head of this country ; and they are likely to rule for a long long time ( unless some one or some event plays a spoilsport ) ; and we will deserve that as well
And decency demands that one quitely accept ones own complascency in all this and just keeps quite; those that did not vote do not deserve to comment anyway; and those that voted against the congress ( but not for NDA ), well they could not get their act right; a divided electorate is a blessing in disguise for Congress; such is the vulnerability of our democracy; we are a nation of over 1 billion but our fate can be dictated by the preferences of say some 250 to 300 million and their choice !!!
It is not a victory for democracy, it is a victory of electoral arithmetic;
It is not a victory for Congress as much as it is a reflection on the inability of NDA to get its act together;
It is not a victory for anyone as much as it is a victory for randomness and chaos
The congress will go about the town rubbing it in and rejoicing.. that is what life is all about; momentarism.. a whole host of wrong theories and concepts will get highlighted and get a fillip
The media houses have hit a jackpot; they were always with the government / pro-congress; notwithstanding that the outcome was contrary to their predictions and all hype that they had built up.. it will all be conveniently brushed under the carpet by upping the ante against the nda and left.. I had seen thru their game long back ( and had warned about this precise problem in one of my blogs that I had submitted here earlier ) .. but who listens to me anyway ? ( in the times of information overload, even sensible voices of reason get overwhelmed by plethora ofdata )
And then the NDA.!!!. well I had suggested even earlier.. they should have gone for better leader and better media managers.. Narendra Modi actually would have had a better chance; the 11 seats in gujarat ( which went to congress ) and some seats in neighbouring maharashtra and rajasthan would have swung in favour of BJP; despite not being a politicians, I have a ear to the ground and so I know how the electoral mathematics works at the ground level.. It is not that advani was not a better leader; but the Modi had the charishma and the right wave to pull in the voters to the voting booth; if one dwelves deep enough one would realise that most BJP candidates in these 3 states lost by a very thin margin !!! and yes.. this is in a way the end game for BJP for the next 5 years at the very least.. Congress is very shrewd.. and it will now go about systematically decimating Modi.. Unless he survives that and is able to capture the imagination of the people again ( which to me appears unlikely as human memory is short and who knows what world would be 5 years down the line ) .
There is one more lesson for NDA.. it should not walk into media trap; media in this country is spineless ( and birds of a feather flock together ; and their natural choice is spinless congress ) .. it has eroded its spine and thence is light weight and thence it can swing/bend anyways. It is the friend of only the powerful/those in power.. and what NDA needs is a clear media strategy..it will have to sack some of its bumbling jokers viz Prakash Javadekar, Sudheendra Kulkarni ( anyway ..with advani gone.. who will remember him now ) .. they should never undersell themselves nor needlessly struggle to get heared.. what they forget is that by coming on air they are in a way giving legitimacy and content to media for free and yet end up getting short changed !!! and now the same media will rub insult to injury.. I had warned them in one of my blogs even earlier.. but then that is history
And yes.. winning elections and coming to power in this country is not difficult ; one just needs to get the basic electoral arithmetics right ; only those candidates win that have a strong connection/bond with their electorates.. there is nothing as a wave nor a swing.. do not get carried away by interpretations of those that call themselves political commentators.. none of them could predict this, whereas I was certain that NDA will get around 180 only ; though I expected third front and fourth front to act as spoilers.. but then that too was perhaps I was going by media reports. In this country, in each of the constituency the work of that candidate matters.. there were stalwarts that won from certain constituencies n number of times no matter what the overall wave was.. and those are the ones that are real leaders.. I admire the likes of sharad pawar for that. In baramati, even if he were to support a stone, that stone will win !!! that is his charishma !!! Same with a few other leaders ( their numbers are anyway dwindling , I can at best remember a few others viz Nijalingappa from AP, Karunanidhi from Chennai, even in a strong anti dmk wave post the death of MGR he won the sole seat for DMK from chennai south, I think; there was Indrajit gupta from the left ; the left in westbengal for the past 30 years till this time around; ) .. the moot point is one needs to build a strong constituency.. a strong connection / bond with ones electorate ; and that one can build only if one is genuinely interested in the welfare of ones people and strives for their welfare; and then let them win elections.. even if people do good for their constituency, it is fine..that itself is good .. that is the stepping stone for further progress.. the NDA got all this wrong.. you cannot go into polls without getting the basics right.. you need to focus on the strength of the candidates.. their rapport with their electorate.. and not just focus on media / internet.. there are no waves in this country.. there never was ( excepting during the elections after emergency as also after the death of indira gandhi/rajiv gandhi in 1984/1991 ; and even these can be managed if candidates have good rapport with the electorate as also the MLA’s representing the various assembly constituencies..) .. we need to move towards a politics of complementing and cosensus.. and work together for the prosperity of one another.. Do not listen to the media/ infact I have stopped watching TV/reading newspaper.. I do not know who all have won ; what I do know is UPA has got good numbers and NDA finished a poor second !!! that is a tragedy in itself.. the UPA is full of corrupt, slimy people.. more communal and more vicious than what most would think.. they are inept, clumsy, mediocre.. and yet they all bask in the reflected glory of opportunism and projectionism.. the electoral arithmetic worked in their favour.. and well they are in.. and they will rule for the next 5 years or 5 decades or even more.. they cannot be upstaged now unless some political miracle happens !!!
The low voting percentage in some critical states combined with division of votes ( viz MNS in maharasthra and between SP/BSP in UP ) worked to the favour of congress.. and well they knew it.. I would not even give credit to congress poll managers for this ( as even they were jittery prior to the results ) .. no.. it is just that this time around the dice rolled in their favour. !!! It is pure random chance.. I believe that in the next assembly elections in maharashtra, it will be the shiv sena and bjp that will come to power ( infact mumbai and thane wore an eerie silence as the results came out.. and excepting for celebratios in the ncp/congress offices.. there was a lull ) .. a lot of maharashtrians are surprised by the outcome.. they never expected such a thing to happen.. a party coming to power despite general discontent against the government in the state; but then they were ignorant about the electoral arithmetics.. many had not voted; and even many of those that voted ended up walking into a trap ( voting for MNS/independents) . if the shiv sena and bjp get their act right.. they can sweep the state.. but I am not so sure whether they can get their act right and that too in the next 2-3 months.
Anyway life goes on.. I cry for the fate of this country.. because Congress has come to power despite bad governance and petty politicking.. and so what is the incentive for anyone to perform or excel ?? after all if one can win elections and retain power by getting the right numbers in a faulty democratic system which does not have any corelation to performance or accountability.. why would congress/any party focus on delivery /performance???
Media and a lot of pseudos and intelligentsia believe that NDA is communal.. is NDA communal or is it the UPA?
In this country talking in favour of hindu unity is a crime, whereas indulging in muslim appeasement is not;
One of the partners of UPA openly supported the cause of tamil eelam in sri lanka and even sang hosannas for a person that was responsible for the assasination of Rajiv Gandhi ? now is that secular or is it simple political compulsion ??? a lady who can ally with those that killed her husband.. what worser example of opportunism can one have ??? the congress will call it ‘supreme sacrifice’, but then in my dictionary, I call it ‘shamelessness and lack of values’
The BSP , RJD, JD (S)and SP openly encourage casteism and voting along caste/religious lines.. they have a vested interest in dividing people and keeping them deluded.. now is that secular ???
The left too indulge in appeasement of muslims.. actually nobody does any good for muslim; the Modi government in gujarat would have benefitted more muslims than the communist governments in west bengal and kerala put together !!! but yet.. they will gang up against Modi and have him villified for post godhra riots !!! I do not know Modi( if one thing I was very sure in this election was that NDA will get around 180 seats only..and unfortunately I got proved right and that too on the lower side; i would have given anything to have been pleasantly surprised and they crossed 200 atleast ) .. Nor am I overwhelmed by media reports either pro modi or against modi.. I am always suspicious of media but then media encompasses a wide range of channels ; and so one cannot totoally ignore them as well. But then what I am saying is if one were to look at independent sources of information.. the gujarat story is indeed something different.. But then as I said.. to each his or her own as per their own.. to me anything that is done for the welfare of people and with honesty and integrity/transparancy is welcome.. the left needs to get its perspective right. They will need to move away from jingoism and rhethoric.. and focus on development. And in case Modi is doing some good then they will need to rise over their pettiness and recognise him for that !!!
I am against minority appeasement; I am against vote bank politics; I am against divisive politics.. I am against regionalism.. I believe that we are indians first and then tamilians, telugus, maharashtrians, bengali and soon !!! and yes.. I believe a lot of indians will agree with me;but then it is upto these indians to stand up, voice their opinion and help getting the act right of all indians ..
The congress is a curse.. it is a scourge.. and yes.. manmohan singh is a very weak prime minister.. he does not have a mind of his own and kowtows most shamelessly to the leader of the party.. and anyone in his place would have done the same thing.. after all he owes his position to the leader..; also having got a relatively more free hand, he will enjoy this stint better.. but then I can see the machinations that will go in the background. Rahul Gandhi/Priyanka gandhi will become the prime minister in this term itself. mark my words.. (manmohan singh will step down on account of health reasons or die in the course of the next 5 years) ;
Abhishek Manu Singhvi/Kapil Sibal will become the erstwhile RK Dhawan/Krishna Menon of the present political set up;
There is also a possibility of a split in congress.. though they are known for their loyalties to the one family ( which I call god and mahathma gandhis’s curse on Indians ) and are very comfortably ensconed in power for now.. yet.. the very randomness that brought them to power this time around also carries the seed of disintegration. It is not wishful thinking.. and neither I have any stakes in predicting this.. I just have a feeling and I am writing this down..Maybe I am wrong.. but then calamities / disasters/accidents happen and who knows what turn gets taken where and when and how !!!
There will be more populist policies and some very wrong policy measures will get taken.. it is in the interest of the congress to keep indians divided.. and so they will continue to focus on ensuring that the electoral arithmetics work to their favour.. in the past 20 years they have reinvented themselves well ; and yes.. it will take a quasi miracle to dislodge them from power now.. and if Rahul Gandhi or Priyanka Gandhi were to take on the reigns of the party / government, even god cannot dislodge them in the next few elections !!! and it is not even such that indians like dynastic rule, the congressmen like dynastic rule !!! and congressmen win elections /get voted in various elections because of a a variety of issues/equations/electoral arithmetic.. but in the end congressman rally behind one family; and so long as individual congressmen get voted in various constituencies.. the gandhi family or their scions will rule for generations ( unless the entire world gets some jolt in 2012 or sometime later ) ; the gandhi family and congress are synonymous; and they provide the much needed glue to keep the scheming/convoluted/ambitious congress men together; even the NCP will now soon merge itself into congress ; Mr Pawar ( like advani ) will have to eat humble pie and fall in line !!! this is the curse on india.. Indians are clueless.. indians will not get their act together.. indians will forever remain distracted and divided.. and so the congress juggernaut will roll..
And I detest congress because it is in power for all the wrong reasons.. performance and integrity has nothing to do with its success; I can list down a hundred missed opportunities in the past during their rule ; they had goofed even when rajiv had got over 450 seats !!! even now they will hob nob with the corrupt and pull wool over the eyes of people; since people have voted for congress , they deserve their fate.. and so none should ever question now corruption, slow pace of legal systems, ineptitude, ineffective bureacracy, lack of infrastructure, collapsing law and order, foreign policy goofs !!! we indians deserve our fate.. the projectionists have won once again; the hype will only gain more momentum now; one can now always hunt with the lions and dine with the wolves and cock a snook at the masses !!! accountability and performance will be a casualty.. and we indians deserve it..
I expect the markets to boom tomorrow when they open.. a minimum 10% rise is assured. the media will dub this as ‘thumbs up to the new regime’. It is the game of the rich and powerful; and the poor will remain suckers !! they deserve it..
The middle class is clueless, divided, confused.. they too deserve their fate for their complascency and irrelevance..they will need to unite.. get their clarity and priorities right.. in places like mumbai, the housing soceities/ colonies should first unite and form strong voting blocks.. and then work with others to get the equation right..
I pity those that voted for NDA,as despite their efforts, their vote will remain irrelevant.. that is the fallacy of our democratic system; the electoral arithmetic is such that it can render even critical issues /critical matters irrelevant. And unless someone changes that ( and I am sure congress and the media will never allow that to change ) .. there is no hope for this country.
Now what is the change that I am suggesting?
It will have to be a system in which the voting percentage counts..
It will also have to be a system in which the central elections will have to be delineated from the state issues;
It will also have to be a system in which there at best are 3 fronts..
The left, the centre and the right..
Independents can at best stand in state elections or stand as candidates of one of the 3 fronts..
The fronts will not only have to come up with their manifestos but also explain how they intend achieving it ; and they will have to define the measuring yardstick/benchmark for performance against which they should be judged; and they will have to define the rating / evaluation criteria as well; and then go to the elections; they will have to achieve these /deliver these irrespective of whether they come to power or not; and I will explain how later..
Voting should be mandatory and should also be allowed thru the internet ( with digital signatures ) ; and the electoral rolls will have to be revised ;and it should be made mandatory for people to validate their names in the appropriate assembly constituency whenever they are shifting locations ( akin to ration cards ) and equally the voter registration offices should become more voter friendly, more efficient, less bureacratic
And lastly, this is a big one.. the representation in the parliament should be in sync with the percentage of votes polled !!! and this in a way will be true democracy, as the voice of every voter and their preference is being respected.. now how this ( of representation in sync with the percentage of votes polled ) can be achieved will have to be worked out later.. but then there are many ways to achieve this.. and any one of them can be adopted.
parties will have to deliver based on the percentage of success that they have achieved ( in terms of voting percentage ); and what this means is people would be voting for policies and capability rather than empty promises and non-issues.. and this is not utopian.. it is possible.. after all every party in this country is claiming to strive for the welfare of the people.. and so what is being called for is a politics of consensus and complementing rather than that of conflict and competition !!! this is pathbreaking and revolutionary.. but then nothing less than such radical measures can save this country from the perils of randomness, chaos, divisiveness, irresponsibility, non-accountability !!!
and yes.. there will be differnces in some critical policy issues between the left, the centre and the right.. but then it is for them to firstly come up with tenable and practicable plans and policies; and secondly work out consensus/middle ground to reconcile their differences. And yes.. in case a particular front does not get over 50% of the votes.. then it means that its diverse/extreme policies will not get implemented ( viz the ram temple at ayodhya or the aborgation of article 370 of the right; or the attempt of left to have a different foreign policy with US/europe or the minority appeasement policies of the centre( congress ) ) ; and what this means is it will be a parliament for performance; where plans and policies will be delivered based on consensus and practicability; and not on rhethoric and brute strength ( of numbers ).. all regional issues will have to addressed at state elections; there can be no plurality or divisiveness when it comes to centre !!!
this is achieveable.. this is also possible and practical quite easily. But then there has to be a political will !!!
This is the only way you can root out malpractices in election
This is the only way you can move towards a more inclusive democracy
This is the only way you can move towards a more mature and more functioning democracy
This is the only way you can ensure that there is balanced representation and accountability.
I can never vote for congress.. I never will.. I detest the congress from the depth of my heart.. I am against the culture of sychopancy and opportunism.. The only congress leader that did real good for the country was P V Narsimha Rao, and the congress does not like that.. they prefer the family..the like to rally around the family; they like to use the family for their own personal good !!!
Anyway , I now come to the end of my article.. Life goes on.. in this country in one sense even elections do not matter; neither does the government or party.. we are heading towards an era of momentarism ; People will get on with life ; endure their hardships, will find their own methods to cope with it, will fight, struggle, suffer, perish.. To each his or her own as per their own.. Even the elections were but in a way much hyped.. after all nothing is going to change radically .. and with the UPA coming back to power, pseudoism will only gain and so would momentarism!!! The electorate is hopelessly unaware and divided; and that is indeed the success mantra for the mediocre and the inept ( the congress). They can get away with harakiri and mediocrity !!! It does not matter whether a candidate contributes or not; and even if a candidate contributes , it does not matter what is his /her contribution is? Where is the objectivity ? where is the scorecard ? where is the corelation ( between winning and performance; between efforts and outcome , between intentions and achievements ) ??? it is a random world with random outcome lived randomly by random beings !!!
One way friends of BJP can make a difference is by wiping out illiteracy which exists not only in distant rural hamlets of Rajasthan and Bihar but in the urbane Delhi and mumbai as well.
This is very easy and cost effective using video lessons played on a cd player. The entire set of lessons is available now. If you want to receive it please send a mail to india.literacy@gmail.com
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The first we can do is to tie up with movements like Jaago Re to get people to Vote. BJP is strong in so called Urban Areas and it is the same area, which never goes to vote. So unless the Urban India votes, we cannot expect BJP to work wonders.
And there is nothing to be dis-heartened about. People have chosen Congress which is a national party. Thus, the trends are changing. If we strengthen ourselves and increase BJP’s Pan India presence, then I am sure, we can bring about a change.
@ Kiran,
No doubt you support congress!! What are u gloating abt anyway? Economic Liberalisation was a brain child of Yashwant Sinha which Narasimha Rao later implemented during his tenure. Shouldn’t the congress party be ashamed for schemes like NREGS 60 years after Independence? why are 400 million of our countrymen still living below poverty line when your beloved congress has been ruling the country for the best part of the last 62 yrs? Why more Indians die of terror strikes(second only to Iraq)? Why does the economists at congress think printing money as a better alternative than to invest in basic infrastructure? Have you guys figured out yet why the prices of essential commodities are sky rocketing? Congress party has been fighting elections over the issue of kapda makan paani since independence till now– isn’t it pathetic that you didn’t do anything drastic to alleviate poverty and still shameless enough to beg for votes?
We had a glorious history before we got enslaved!! and nothing wrong in drawing inspiration from it!!
No country could ever develop if it forgets its heritage.
Folks,
We need to start looking forward and onwards.
I dont know who at the party HQ is reading all of what we write but I hope that someone is !
Lets not waste time.
We know what went wrong - lets not deliberate anymore. I think we should try to reach out to each other and rather than just blog and comment, lets get together in our consituencies and see how we can :
1) work with BJP govts that are in power in the states (like Karnataka, Gujurat) -to ensure that they perform well and focus on governance and ensure that they get re-elected
2)expand our base -we need to work from the inside too
3)Word of mouth - is so pwerful. lets use that and not only talk amongst ourselves but really start getting the message out
4)BJP should stop giving interviews and appearing on prime time -it does nothing for the image
5)Talk different - stand out from the others - talk climate change and its threat to India, talk sustainable development, clean energy ,focus on education,livlihoods,women empowerment,health care,rid party of criminals and cash etc etc..
Not sure who manages this site but we should be able to find each other in the cities where we live -so we should have various chapters - and together work in image re-building.
Viva
We are fighting elections on the issues you mentioned. Not only after Independece, but even in the limited democracy that the british rule permitted, Congress fought on the same issues.
Look at your party, whose fight are you fighting any way? Fighting for Ram mandir and ram sethu? Fighting for falsely placed hindu ideaology?
Remember my friend, people of India believe that we are fighting sincerely. That’s why they are voting us to power again and again. Electorate tried out the third fron and experimented with BJP too. And now they have reinforced there belief that Congress only has been honest in it’s quest for better life for the masses of the country.
If at all you really stand by the issues you spoke about, why I see so hatefilled posts by friendsof BJP here on this forum? Why your leaders are not raising issues of Roti Kapada and Makan?
Good that you understood what the issues are
Hi All,
Do not be disheartened,aim for 2014 and start working from now itself.Meet more people,let them know that BJP is not anti any religion but pro India.
Like some one has said,BJP needs to start a channel and a news paper.BJP should also try and get govt employees and armed focrces personnel to vote for them.some ex-servicemen had announced their decision to support BJP but that was after one phase of election was over.we need to do better next time.
NOW TRY TO WIN BACK MAHARASHTRA,THAT’S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.And get more young guns to the fore
am sure this election was d begining of d end for psuedo secularists and d corrupt likes of d cong nd its allies…today i see a lot more ppl are making d effort of educating d masses…things today are nt totaly messed up in India …but are pretty close to being…d day things become unbearable then ppl will realize d consequences of their psuedo secularist fanaticsm…me and my team have already started working on d way ahead for all of us…d day is nt far when v’ll achieve it
@ Kiran,
are you just blunt or not good at reading sarcasms? If even after 60 years of Independence the majority of our country are still deprived of roti kapda & makaan dont u think it is a consequnce of the congress’ misrule? i mean how come countries like Japan which were devastated after world war II could rebuild themselves to be biggest economy in asia and we with all the resources still a developing country? Why do u think we only have Infosys & Wipro but not a Microsft or an IBM? u gettin my point? Why are we still importing most of our defence procurements and not develop it ourselves? We got overwhelmed when we sent a rocket to moon last year but Americans & Russians were there 4 decades before us!! Why are we so behind? coz of RSS or bcoz of ur beloved party congress!!
Friends of BJP has a big role to play, going forward. It has the potential to mobilize the common man and be a platform for genuine and deep dialouge…instead of demagoguery. By expanding the party’s base, it will make it more moderate, inclusive and a genuine party of the people rather than a slave to the diktats of RSS
Dear All
Friends Of BJP !!
I am very disappointed with results especially not to see Mr. L.K.Advani as Prime Minister of India.
This is a serious issue for India Now as Indians have welcome Congress.
Congress means more population of other religions other than Hindus!!
BJP should now start working to the BASICS.
Away from hat rate and destructive politics.
I support Mr. L.K.Advani’s decision not to accept any post in the party.
He should rather work constructive with clear image people of all age group of the society.
He should rather work on issues like poverty, education, health, shelter, jobs/works and Most Important Constructive Propaganda of Hindutva with spiritual Leader From all the corners of India.
We not only need one Ram Mandir at Ayoydhya but Major Hindu Religion Hubs in the All the extreme Corners Of India as well especially North Eastern states.
In India Thousands of Temples are collecting Billions of Rupees Everyday.
How much of that we are using in constructive way to upgrade life of Hindus and promote HINDUTVA!!
This is serious issue and need to be addressed on the priority basis before we “HINDUS” Become “MINORITY” In “HINDUSTAN”.
WAKE UP BJP THIS IS HIGH TIME BEFORE YOU GO BACK TO “2” SEATS AGAIN.
Dear Friends ,
its really not the end of the day , but it is begining of new journey .We can draw inspiration from 1984 election results - 2 seats after that in 1989 we emerged a decissive force .
BJP needs to increase its geographical representation throughout the country on its own instead of depending on allies. A strong BJP can attract allies . The mixing of youth and experienced leadership at state & national level . The focus on revamp of youth wing to counter Congress’s emerging youth leadership.
Apart from highlighting the failure’s of Congress government there should be also a highlight on alternative policy. BJP also needs to highlight their devlopment programme for rural areas since a large vote base is still in rural India .
thanks & regards ,
Bharat Mata Ki Jai , Vande Mataram.
Hi all,
We have fought two general elections on developmental issues and people have rejected our candidates.
The strenght of BJP has always been hindutva and will continues to be so.
It is only section of population in urban areas who under the influence of the pseudo secular media treat BJP as taboo, and judging by the voting % that happens there we dont need them any way. Why else would varun gandhi win with a margin of 2 lakh votes???
Hindus are under very huge threat 28000 temples out of 34000 temples closed in AP, rampant conversions everywhere… why not make issue of all this, giving CBSE status to madrasas, when 6000 of them have been shut down in pakistan,
last two general elections BJP has made fultile attempts to project itself as a secular party, not that it is communal but the media would always take BJPs case in Godhra and kandhamal.
Its obvious that the goverment where there is NDA rule are best governed, but that would never reach people.
Regards,
Yogesh
First we should remember who our enemies are.
Muslims and only Muslims are our enemies. We are not Anti-Minority. We are not Pro-Muslim. We should get this message out. We not anti minority. We are only anti-muslim.
What friends of BJP should?
1) We should not hesitate to say that we support BJP.
2) We should encourage more and more educated people to support BJP.
What should BJP do?
We can classiffy Indian population broadly into 4 categories
1) Upper caste Hindus - 30%
2) OBC’s - 30%
3) SC and ST’s - 25%
a SC’s - 15%
b ST’s - 10%
4) Minorities - 15%
a) Muslims - 10%
b) Non-Muslims - 5%
Muslims will never vote for us and SC’s are very difficult to get.
Upper castes are easiest to get and depending on states OBC’s are reasonably inclined towards BJP.
The class of voters whom we are not courting very well are ST’s and Non-muslims. Especilly in states like Kerala which has significant Christian population and other areas like Telanagana and Upper Andhra that has significant Tribal population.
We have to reach out to these groups for BJP to be successful.
We have to frame an approprite policy for every state taking into account the regional nuances to be prepared for the next election.
Also remember Money plays a big role any election even more than Good governance.
@ vamsi
What do you mean by ” We are anti-Muslim? ”
Dont say such things.
I think we should realise that some of the good things done recently need to be continued. The TV media has broadcasted the congress lies for years and the disinterested middle class bought the lies because of intellectual lethargy. If the BJP continues its message consistently, this too wiill turn back in BJP’s favour. On the other hand, the populist activities of the UPA has put the fiscal deficit at 10% - how long will this continue ? The time to deliver is now and I dont see dr.manmohan singh being able to deliver. Lets wait our turn. In the meanwhile, why dont the BJP MPs decide to spend all their non session time in their constituencies and be visible and make some real change. There is nothing better than doing a good job and ensuring visibility of the good work (The latter is something that the BJP can snd should improve)
The Party must not drift towards Extreme Right as some people here are suggesting but should become a Right of Centre Party if it has any chance of winning elections. Liberal Nationalism is the way forward.
The problem is BJP is not present in large states like Tamilnadu, Andhra Pradesh, West bengal, kerala. the vote share is almost zero. They contribute to about ~ 30% of the country
Please reflect why is this so.
My guess is
1. In all the above states, the linguistic identity is stronger than the religious identity
2. BJP is perceived as Hindi / Cow belt party. Inspite of having lot of north Indian leaders Congress is not seen as a Hindi party
3. These states have negative feelings towards Hindi.
4. Suggest you project more cosmopolitan leaders to appeal to these states.
5. Please stop leaders like Rajnath Singh from appearing in any English media
6. Invest in these states — get manpower to do ground level work
None of the top BJP leaders speak in English (with the exception of Arun Jaitley). Please remember that English is more acceptable to the middle class than Hindi in some of the states
The BJP definitely NEEDS ITS OWN NEWS CHANNEL, which is pro-BJP and will be able to put all the right wing news talking points to the rest of the Indian media watching electorate.
Like the Fox news channel in the US, which is right-wing and presents issues from the angle of the Republican party, the BJP needs a channel of itself in the Indian media.
I beg to differ with Vamsi. Muslims are not our enemies at all. Remember, muslims are our own ppl who have embraced an ideology from an alien land. A human is like a computer. Ideology is like a virus.Smashing a computer is not the solution to virus infection. We must work on anti-virus.
Anti-virus is telling the truth. Our leaders like L.K.Advani should have no hesitation in saying that had there been no religion change in present-day Pakistan/Afghanistan/Bangladesh in last 1300 years, India wouldnt have been partitioned and our brethren in these countries wouldnt be suffering as they do today.
Common Anand you cannot pretend that muslim hatered is not deep rooted in the DNA of BJP. Whom are you fooling? Just this forum itself is evidence of how deeply BJP hates non Hindus.
BJP cannot live withoun Hindu Supremacy on their mind. And about programng and reprogramming- I have closely watched how RSS tries to program Hindu kid’s mind with non Hindus hatered. I smell the rotten RSS ideology in your programing model of mind.
I have never detested BJP more than I do after reading your open hostilities. This reminds me the Nazi propaganda against jews.
Yuck!!!
@ ANAND
आनंद किस किरण को समझाने में लगे हो आप ? जो अपने इतिहास से कुछ भी नहीं सीखना चाहता .इन नपुंशक हिन्दुओं को मुस्लिमो से हमदर्दी है लेकिन हिन्दुओं से नहीं . इन लोगों ने उदारता का नक़ाब अपनी कमजोरी छिपाने के लिए उसी तरह चढा रखा है जिस तरह कांग्रेस ने . ये नपुंशक तब कहाँ थे जब कश्मीर के अतिवादी षडयंत्र कर कश्मीर के हिन्दू पंडितों को खदेड़कर वहां से पलायन करने पर मजबूर कर दिया था ? आज के सभ्य कहलाने वाले समाज में हिन्दुओं को मध्य युगीन तरीके से उनपर हमला कर वहां से भागने पर मजबूर कर दिया था .कहाँ हैं आज के आधुनिक सभ्य कहलाने वाले बुद्धिजीवी ? उनकी कलम क्यों कमजोर पड़ गयी है जो कश्मीरी हिन्दू पंडितों को न्याय नहीं दिला पा रही है ?
इन मूर्खों से बहस करने से कोई फायदा नहीं ये जयचंदी जमात के लोग हैं .कांग्रेस तो सत्ता लोभ के कारण मुस्लिम अतिवादियों के प्रति नरम है .इन जैसे हिन्दुओं को मुस्लिम को खुश करके क्या मिल रहा है–कश्मीर से पलायन ओर आंतकवादियों के बम ? इनकी हिम्मत है कि वह कश्मीर के मुस्लिम नेताओं का विरोध करे ?
BJP lost because:
1. Blame the Media
2. Blame lies propagated by the congress
3. Blame the minorities, whom you have alienated
4. Blame Modi / Varun Gandhi who contributed to 3.
Or,
Get a perspective, you cannot continue politics of hatred / division / one agenda of hinduism for a long time. You will need to build stronger leaders, engage the electorate by showing your wider understanding of India’s problems and providing credible solutions for the same.
SHUT UP about hinduism / temple. Hindusim has survived far longer than any religion and that too without the BJP or the RSS.
If you want to be force in politics, talk politics…
If you want to be a force in Religion, please don’t use the political arena.
And please stop the anti-Muslim, anti-Christianity sentiments, it is crude, and has not only alienated the minorities, it has alienated large masses of the majority. If you cannot respect your fellow Indians, just because they happen to follow a different religion than you, how do you expect the larger mass to respect you.. As you can see, they don’t respect your party, and will continue not to respect it unless, you change from being a hate machine to become a mature political party with mature leadership and new ideas to solve the multitude of problems that India is facing..and building the temple is definitely not one of them..
Friends
It is time to retrospect , debate and come up with a bunch of initiatives which we “friends of bjp ” should start “EXECUTING” in right earnest. Otherwise all this is verbal diorrehea .
Victory in any endevaour comes out of hard work only. That is the eternal truth
BJP has to really “sculpt” a support base for it like it did in Gujarat and Karnataka . It has to work towards creating , cultivating and nurturing a support base fed on nationalistic ideologies . This only would payoff in the long run. In this endevour it has to first work towards breaking some “myths” and “refraction’ created by psedosecular parties and media .
The first to break is the rubbish ideology which goes by the name “Secularism ” in India. We need to engage dedicated research students to collect data from all over India and effectively show case how this concept has degenerated from accomodating muslims post partition in national life to small time appeasement during Indira gandhi days to overt dangerous minority communalism like Shah Bano compromise / Shariat law and soft approach to Kashmiri separatists and Bengladeshi infiltrators to now even compromising national security by govt attitude towards , SIMI, Afzal and Kasab .
This has to be effectively and persistently communicated not getting distracted by all opportuniistic pesedo secular and psedo intellectual voices that would cry hoarse . We should be hawk eyed of the new govt and should catch it as and when it tries to whitewash the crimes of terrorists like Afzal and Kasab just like it did for Madhani in kerala ( It is in thse situations BJP should effectively use its PR channels and leverage the opportunity )
In this process we also should try to create awarness among a vast majority of middleclass Indians , who unfortunately are absolutely short sighted , naive and gullible , and who can be easily lured by small gains.
Second is to expose and discredit the psedosecualr press and psedo intellectuals who adopt a myopic approach to MIM zeolots and Taslima’s treatment by govt , but create brouhaha when it comes to MF Husain and so on. We should engage them in every debate in every media and pointedly fix them on issues like Godhra vs post Godhra, Swami assasination vs Kandhamal
There are many such clear areas ,gross misuse of temple funds across india, balkanisation of indian society by missionaries and wahabi elements supported by US and Saudi govts to form pockets of influence, the shameful activities of commies in promoting Maoist violenece and already Predatory Chinese influence in Nepal and other areas dangerous to unity integrity and interests of this nation
BJP should stand tall as a party that promotes true nationalism, the party which always stands for India’s pride , its glorious and ancient hertiage and culture and very development oriented as well.
Apart from these we need to focussedly work on regional issues, like how we lost base in Rajasthan , Madhya Pradesh , Delhi , Uttaranchal etc which are very potential .
How can we build bases in places like Kerala, WB, Tamilnadu , Andhra etc
Thus we need to identify core areas and work parallely and consistently which only would payoff in the long run. In a different context, actually it should not be to capture power in Delhi but all these are needed for the service of our motherland, our civilisation and culture . Let us work with that spirit in mind.
As Lord Krishna said, let us work for what is our dharma , results would come.
I appeal to all regional unit office bearers of Friends of BJP to call for a meeting wthin next few weeks, identify areas to work upon and move towards the goal with Swami Vivekananda’s words guiding us ” Utthishtata , Jagratha , Prapyavaran Nibdhatha ”
We have a civilsation , a glorious hertiage and preserve and protect and handover to our coming generations. No effort is less for that.
JAI HIND
As expected “jitne muh uthne rai”. But this is the essence of this forum. we need to ineract to exchange ideas and thoughts. I personally do not agree with some of the extreme moves suggested by some. However one thing is certain and it runs through many many posts. And it is the attitude of the electronic media, especially channels like ndtv and cnn/ibn. Even this night, after achieving their goal of projecting BJP in bad light they were indulging in thier favourite pasttime. I was watching hysterical
Sagarika’s programme with a couple of journalists, Rajdeep and Mr Megnath Desai.
Channels are vying with each other to get this old NRI on board for discussions. I fail to see in what way his words should be even considered. He has not lived here at all and has a biased opinion of everything. He has been particularly rude to Mr Advani and very generous in his complements to MR MMS. Today he crossed all limits of propriety when he commented that to him
Mr Advani looks “messy” and MMS is always immaculately turned out. What was very annoying was Sagarika giggled merrily at the comment and Rajdeep had a huge grin on his face. This aspect of media bashing BJP for the sake of TRP even after they have lost has to be taken up by th eleaders. I hope Chandan Mitra, swapan Dasgupta and other take this up seriously.
बीजेपी ध्यान दें ………
1) आपसी सर फुट्टवल करने के बजाय बीजेपी नेताओं को चाहिए कि वह चुनाव के बाद मंथन करे कि कहाँ कमजोरी रह गयी है .
2) बीजेपी नेता मीडिया में किसी भी तरह का विवादास्पद बयान देने से बचें क्योंकि इससे समर्थकों में गलत सन्देश जाता है ओर कार्यकर्ता ओर समर्थक हतोत्साहित होते हैं .
3) जितना भी मंथन करना हो वह अन्दर ही करें .
4) मोदीजी को लेकर विवादास्पद बातें मीडिया में आ रही हैं जिसका काउंटर बीजेपी प्रवक्ता को करना चाहिए .मोदीजी के बारे में कोई गलत निर्णय न लें वरना देश भर में बीजेपी को अपने युवा कार्यकर्ता खोने का ख़तरा हो सकता है .
5) मीडिया के लिए अनधिकृत नेता या प्रवक्ता मीडिया में बयानबाजी न करें .
BJP must do prayaschit (destruction of sins) for Gujarat & Kandamahal Genocide. Advocate restraint, build strong legal teams instead of Ram Sena, Bajrang Dal.
Redefine and revolutionize from Hindutva, Ram Mandir to Ram Raaj- benchmark governance else BJP its nearing its political expiry date. Only long run way ahead is recruiting young self actualized youngsters.
The result is karma, result of deeds of BJP and its supporters. Its more than just a perception of voters.
@ NAVENDU
कुछ नपुंशक हिन्दुओं को जिहादी मानसिकता वाले मुस्लिमो के करतूत नज़र नहीं आते .तुम्हारे जैसे जयचंदी छाप हिन्दुओं की इस देश को जरुरत नहीं है जो ज़िहादी मानसिकता वाले मुस्लिमो के करतूतों पर पर्दा डालते रहे हैं .तुम्हारे जैसे लोगों को कश्मीरी हिन्दू पंडितों का विस्थापन नज़र नहीं आता .
Well The reason why BJP lost is due to Less PERCENTAGE OF VOTING , Hardly 30% of Voting in Major Cities like Mumbai & Delhi.
Well it gives us a lesson to learn that the Educated public though support BJP but why dont they come out for Voting on the Election Day, i see many of support for our PARTY but then why is it so, cause many havent Voted due to Names mIssing in Voting List,People were out on holidays etc.. but in the ASSEMBLY ELECTIONs if our PARTY has to win MAHARSAHTRA minimum 80% to 90% of People should come out for Voting then iam damn sure BJP will win with Huge margins of Vote,so we need to conduct meetings every 15 days or so & people must convince the People,so that Results favour us, cause if this Trend continues then it will be a difficult situation for our party.
So kindly convince all People in your OFFICES, AREAS, SOCIETY etc.. to ” VOTE FOR BJP ” .
Jai Hind- Jai Maharashtra.
Dipesh Ajmera.
Mumbai.
BJP needs to do the following:
1) In election year, start 2-3 so-called schemes everywhere they are in power eg loan waivers, employment even without work, free electricity, bicycle etc
2) Make inroads in North East, Kerala, Tamil Nadu
3) Groom regional leaders who are dhartiputras just like Sharad Pawar
4) Buy stake in some English news channel
5) Groom some young national level leaders like vaun Gandhi
6) Take photographs of plight of Kashmiri hindus and try to convince selfish Hindus of other states that Kashmiri Hindus are also member of Homo Sapiens
Rajat
No point of saying this now..everything is finished now…we’ll become the playtoys of China and USA..Vatican of the east..
If someone among the moderators is reading this. I have a question:
Is it possible for BJP to try open primaries in some state elections? This will ensure transparent selection of candidates and also a new idea that will distinct BJP as a true democratic party. In order to prevent spam voters, this process may be limited only to the party workers in that constituency.
I am sure Congress and other parties can not replicate this process because they are by nature not democratic.
I HAVE A CONCRETE AND WORKABLE SUGGESTION THAT BJP FRIENDS CAN ACHIEVE RATHER EASILY. We have to start by countering the misinformation against BJP. I am sure BJP friends can start by
1) Starting a news portal IN ENGLISH. It should be named something not obviously partisan… say something like “indianews.com”
2) It should be launched as a venture that is expected to make profits and should contain information on (apart from politics, of course)
a. Cricket
b. Bollywood,
c. immigration & studying/working abroad (well.. Indians LOVE that),
d. competitive exam resources
e. a forum for job postings,
f. Astrology, fashion, religious sermons from the popular gurus;
g. complete with a social networking/dating section.
3) THE IDEA IS TO CREATE SOMETHING OF THE GENRE OF REDIFF.COM, ON WHICH THE POLITICS OF COURSE, IS OF THE NATIONALISTIC KIND and which is, of course, much bigger than rediff.com.
4) Once launched, BJP Friends can be asked to contribute so that large ads can be taken out in TOI etc. as an “info-entertainment portal”.
5) A lot of BJP Friends are young people with considerable technical expertise, so I don’t foresee a major problem with getting volunteers to do the web design.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE ITEMS I WOULD WISH INCORPORATED INTO THIS PORTAL WOULD SOUND A LITTLE “FRIVOLOUS”, BUT THIS IS WHAT CATCHES THE EYE.
In fact, this is precisely the approach of Fox News… make it spicy…make it flashy and deliver the underlying message. I also believe this is one of the most doable things for BJP Friends.
The elections were rigged.
Sorry… I left out things that this news website should include like accent training resources, spoken English resources etc. The site can easily be made profitable and self sustaining by ads and sponsored links from organizations that provide facilities like IIT prep, language coaching, GRE, H1-B consulting, even Vaastu, Astrology, etc.
And you know… in order to get the web designers… all you need to do is ask for volunteers on this site… I am sure you can get them pretty quickly. Then we can raise money for the ad campaign.
I know this sounds a little glib, but you know what, this is what works… once we have something like a “Super Rediff”, we can start influencing large numbers of youth.
rediff.com not enough?
it is only right that the hand should hold the lotus and not the other way round
Dude…we rediff is not pro-BJP…
guys, there have been a lot of well thought out comments here, only if these ideas had been offered pre mortem and not post.
the one i liked…
yes, Bharatiya makes more sense than Hindutva, but dont expect to fool a lot of people. Still something is better than nothing.
i read rediff almost every day and i suspected that it was so, at least the columnists…
you think rediff is pro-BJP?… you have got to be kidding me… there’s Sheela Bhatt and there is this unknown person who goes by the name “Nazarwala”… in fact rediff is one of the websites on which I have come across some of the most scathing criticism of the BJP.
Folks
We need to be more inclusive and start working ASAP on:
Brand Building
Rebuilding our image of a clean disciplined party based on meritocracy and good governance.
Work from within -tell our party leaders the truth of how we are perceived in India -and what we can do to fix perception.
Avoid the damn TV channels - they did us way too much harm
Anyone in Bangalore out there ?
I think we need to meet and have a strong presence offline too !
Viva
Viva
The recent elections have given an opportunity for the BJP, to exactly know where they stand.
But personally I feel that the following initiatives may be taken for better future results.
1. One of the main reasons I feel is that the BJP’s agendas / objectives have not reached the grass roots of voters.
2. BJP concentrates more on to northern parts and the need for focusing on the southern parts is required.
3. It would be better to create a 3-4 members kind of action committee, on each and every district to support the BJP in its regular campaigns and these action committee should enable the BJP by getting various inputs of that particular district..
4. Working on mass advertisements about BJP
5. Minimum common programme can be derived as an target for the respective districts welfare and review of the same on yearly basis.
Because its the time now that we need to concentrate on every district, and bring in to the mind of India that BJP will only be the best party to serve the nation.
Thanks
Sathyanarayanan
hi viva,
me frm b’lore too!!
The local BJP i think wud be in doldrums in a couple of years, yeddi have poached too many outsiders!! some of the local leaders are too wise for their own good, if yeddi doesn’t concentrate 100% on development we all know what fate waits us by 2014!
As a “friend of BJP” I assure that in good times or bad. I will always remain a friend of BJP.
This letter is addressed to the friends of BJP.
Date: 17th May 2009.
Dear all,
Throughout yesterday I was sad, ever since the results started coming in.
Anyway, if this is the verdict of our people, I have no other option, but to accept it wholeheartedly as “makkal theerpae mahesan theerpu”. After all, in any democracy, in any election that is conducted in a free and fair manner, the people are the winners, and I strongly believe that the people deserve the government they have.
Today I am not as sad as I was yesterday; in fact, now I realize that the silver lining of the outcome of this election is the complete rout of the Left in their strongholds. If truth be told, the diminution of the strength of Left parties in Parliament is a positive sign. There will be no more impediments in the path of economic liberalization and Congress can have the last laugh in scores of issues before the Parliament. I simply rejoice at the defeat of the LEFT in West Bengal and Kerala, and the loss of Telugu Desam in AP and various Third Front constituents in other regions, for obvious reasons.
Since Congress/UPA have managed to come very near the magic number 272, they need not rely on the Left, Lalu or Mulayam or other narrow-minded regional/sub-regional outfits. Going by the media reports, Congress victory can be attributed to many facts:–
Manmohan Singh’s decent image
Sonia Gandhi’s unquestionable leadership (capable of taking independent decisions)
Rahul’s charisma that brought the revival of Congress in UP,
large number of youth turnout in Delhi that turned out to be a favour for Congress
allotment of seats to many youths like Jyotiraditya Scindia, Sachin Pilot, Jitin Prasada and Milind Deora, etc.,
excellent regional leadership in states like Andhra Pradesh, Rajasthan, etc., and the solid alliances with Trinamul and DMK….
But did the BJP fail to win in this General Elections 2009?
My BJP friends and well wishers are already into introspection, and the following are the reasons they cite for the loss of BJP in this elections-2009.
Anti-BJP media (NDTV, Star, IBN, etc…)
Hate speeches of Varun Gandhi…
Communal image of the party (attack on Mangalore PUB, Kandhamal clashes…)
Needless statements “Modi will be next PM” was not at all received well at national level…
Lack of Public Relation skills (eg:- no BJP channel – even regional outfits have one!)
Local factors in Rajasthan, N.Delhi, Utharkhand (infighting and internal bickering)
Lack of coalition management – Parting ways with BJD in Orissa.
Raj Thackeray cutting into BJP/Sena’s traditional vote base in Maharastra
9. 10………….. and so on.
Are they the real causes for the set back of BJP……. I am not sure!
And I do not have the time to examine.
But what crosses my mind is whether BJP really deserved to win this general election 2009?
Did BJP had that much needed capability and strength to come anywhere closer to the magic number 272?
C’mon… the BJP doesn’t have any substantial presence in the states of Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal – together they account for more than 140 seats!. And this time, they fought it all alone and without the support of any established ally. That means – the BJP together with all the other constituents of NDA have the means and ability to contest only in less than 400 seats. If this is the genuine scenario, then how could BJP expect to form government at center? Were they expecting the people of India to get carried away by the speculations of post poll alliances? Normally, a political party chooses a candidate based on his/her winnability (capability of winning). So too the people – in order to avoid a hung parliament, they choose the party/alliance/front that shows the possibility of winning. How can the people be fooled by resorting to superfluous speculations?
TAMILNADU: BJP is not even able to put candidates in some constituencies. Earlier in the mid-nineties, the BJP showed some signs of making its presence felt in the state. Unfortunately, we have allowed ourselves to be used and thrown by AIADMK & DMK, as a result, all prospects of Lotus blooming in TN faded in the coming years. I strongly believe that Jayalalithaa is unreliable, and any speculation of alliance with Jaya will only benefit her and not us. Worst thing is – in 2004, we allowed Jaya to have a say in selection of our BJP candidates (which deprived Thirunavukkarasar from contesting last time). It is very pity that even after the arrest of Kanchi Sankaracharya, a section of the state/central leadership of BJP wants to ally with AIADMK.
KERALA: O.Rajagopal got over 2 lakh votes in Thiruvananthapuram in 2004 and was leading in 2-3 assembly segments. But in the subsequent by-elections at TVM and in the assembly elections BJP performance was far below the expectations. But as far as factionalism/groupism is concerned, BJP has proved that it is on par with LDF and UDF!
ANDHRA PRADESH: I was told that this is the state that sent largest contingent of Kar Sevaks from South India during the Ramajanmabhoomi agitations. Despite having few pockets of influences, our lack of growth in the state is distressing. Today, we remain as political untouchables even to new comers like Chiranjeevi. The irony is we lost our base in Telengana to TRS over the years.
CASTE/CLASS FACTOR: In these 3 south Indian states, where is our support base?
It is no secret that the CPI-M in Kerala derives its strength from the Ezhava caste while the UDF is a combination of Nairs, Christians and Muslims.
In Andhra, the Reddys throw their lot with Congress while the Kammas remain to be the backbone of Telugu Desam. And so Chiranjeevi banks on his Kapu caste apart from his fans all over Andhra.
So too in TN, the Thevars of southern tamil nadu, by and large, vote for AIADMK.
The educated, non-Brahmin middle-class (both urban & rural) is the strength of DMK.
The caste equations in these states are unfavorable to BJP.
By and large, the BJP is perceived as a party that stands for the forward caste-educated-urban-middle class. To be frank with you all, unless the BJP sheds the ‘pro-Brahmin tag’ and becomes acceptable to majority sections of the society, we cannot expect our candidates to do well.
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Well, my next point is performance of BJP in other Indian states/regions:-
TELENGANA:- Telegu Desam and Chiranjeevi were seeing BJP as a political untouchable and were so keen on relying on ‘Muslim vote’ for their win. See today, what happened…? TDP lost not only because of Chiranjeeve’s party, but also because he was not in alliance with BJP which has substantial support base in AP. I am equally happy that Telengana Rastra Samiti lost. If they were really for a separate statehood for Telengana, they should have aligned with BJP. See today, Congress is in power, and there is no possibility of Telengana for the next five years. I believe TRS will lose its base in the coming days. And I would like to see BJP in the forefront of all agitations for Telengana.
MUMBAI:- We lost all the SIX seats..!
Agreed that Raj Thackery spoiled our chances, but WHY didn’t he cut into the Congress-NCP votes? Did we VOICE STRONGLY against his chauvinistic politics?
Had we taken a TOUGH STANCE against the politics of Raj Thackeray, the results would have been different, and in our favour.
We have an identity - we need not give it up for Shiv Sena. So, it is high time we take up the VIDHARBA issue. Nitin Gadkari should be assigned that task, and Gopinath Munde must return to Maharashtra’s regional politics.
ORISSA: I think we should have taken our best efforts in persuading Naveen Patnaik to stay with us. There is nothing wrong in losing a battle to win a war at a larger level. I am not asking to compromise on the issue of forcible conversions in tribal areas, but what I feel is we could have conceded a seat or two to BJD as per their demand.
GORKHALAND: Making inroad into the Leftist bastion is surely a Herculean task. We have to concede the fact that MAMATA has done her best in mobilizing the anti-Left votes. Look, we are the ones whom the LEFT hates very much to the core. But we are unable to do what Mamata did. We never launched any popular Anti-LEFT programs in the state. In this state, anti-Congressism has all along been benefiting the LEFT only. From a complete turn around from the past, now Bengal witnessed a tide of Anti-LEFT feelings that eventually benefited the Congress-Trinamul. Gorkhaland is a serious issue, and we have to take concerted efforts in order to retain the goodwill of the people who aspire for this separate state. BJP has to revive its orginal stand on creation of smaller states for administrative convenience and also to honour the regional aspirations.
RAJASTHAN, NEW DELHI, UTTARKAND:- Congress literally swept Delhi… whatever be the reason, internal bickering or infighting in our party .. whatever… I am sure BJP will sit and do some introspection – and I am not much worried about this result as these seats were ours not long ago, and so, we CAN win them back in the coming elections.
KARNATAKA, GUJARAT, CHATTISGARH, HIMACHAL, BIHAR:- Thanks to good governance of the respective state governments. I expected more from Gujarat, and in Bihar it is our ally Nitesh Kumar who has to be given the credit.
And my third and last point is about LEADERSHIP…
it is no doubt that ADVANIji’s vision that carried us to great heights.
But in the current scenario, I do not think Advaniji is an appropriate leader.
We need a young, dynamic, amenable leader with a friendly neighborhood character.
Let a new leader emerge from consensus – whoever be it.
As I mentioned earlier, still lot of areas are to be covered – we need to grow more, across the length and breadth of the country. Who will take care of this unfinished task? Are we going to INVENT another leader like Advaniji or Vajpayeeji?
Was HINDUTVA not responsible for our growth? Or was it Advaniji?
What is the identity of BJP?
How could people differentiate BJP from Congress, if the later discards Hindutva?
Lot of questions comes into view before us.
BJP has seen several ups and lows in the past, over the years ever since its inception in the early fifties (Jan Sangh). Throughout BJP/Jan Sangh’s journey from the late 60 till date, we have been seeing ADVANIJI and VAJPAYEEJI leading us from the front. Yet BJP was never an individual-centric party. Hindutva ever remained the driving force. We need to identify new leaders, both at regional and national level, and we need to improve our PR approaches.
We and the LEFT are the only political formations that are capable of taking the Congress on every socio-politico-economic front. We and the LEFT are the only ones who do not rely on dynasty-culture in politics. I was told that the parties of Mulayam, Mayawati, Chiranjeevi, Jayalalitha, Bal Thackeray, Karunanidhi, Ramdoss, Vaido, Naveen Patnaik… are all rooted in dynasty cultures and will have no future after these leaders vanish from the scene. However, the BJP will stay… as we do not rely on any leader, and we are driven by our HINDUTVA.
Hindutva should not be confused with the misadventures and aberrations of Pramod Mutaliks and Ram Senas and Bajrang Dals. RSS, VHP and other sangh parivar organizations have to work in a synchronized way. Periodical meetings have to be conducted between parivar bodies and all disputes have to be sorted out time to time. If necessary, strong action have to be taken against anyone who over indulges in the name of Hindutva by misusing Hindu sentiments.
We have genuine task before us. BJP has to be a responsible opposition party first. Cross border terrorism, home-grown-jehadis, forcible conversion by evangelists in tribal areas, Maoist menace, etc are real concerns. IF NOT US, then who will raise these issues at Parliament? Not only the Congress, but also various parties like BSP, SP, RJD, and the Left are still adopting policies of Minority appeasement, Vote Bank politics, and Pseudo secularism. So, BJP has a major role… and will continue to play a major role keeping the national interest as top most priority.
LEFT will not grow, and it doesn’t seem to aspire for growing outside WB, Kerala & Tripura. And now, LEFT has to fight for its own survival in its strongholds. Only we have the aims and ambitions at national level, for which, we have to explore the possibilities of growing in every nook and corner of our country. Let us look forward to new opportunities of growth in the states of Kerala, WB, Tamil Nadu, AP…If we do not have any presence in these states, it will be IMPOSSIBLE to win in the coming days… NO PARTY will ever come forward to ally with us in these four states… and it would be too self-indulgent to expect a win at national level in such a situation.
I am sure, this is NOT THE END OF THE ROAD for BJP…
I expect a new beginning for the BJP, if we learnt our lessons well.
When we just had two seats, we were still a National Party – we had a national outlook.
We grew from 2 seats in the 80s…
so I am sure we will grow from the present strength of 116 in the coming years….
With greetings and warm regards,
V V Rajan
Doha, Qatar.
“Success is not measured by what a man accomplishes but by the opposition he has encountered and the courage with which he has maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds…” - Orisen Swett Marden
PS: I typed this at high speed before going to bed…so, english language lovers, please excuse me J
Considering the fact that neutrality in journalism is an essence of democracy. It has been observed that Indian media is not neutral and campaigned aggressively for defeating BJP. I appeal to all friends of BJP to start a movement of boycotting media houses which are not neutral. This shall ultimately strengthen democracy. To start with, I have with immediate effect cancelled the NDTV subscription pack on my Big TV connection. Let us start a movement because Indian democracy deserves a neutral media.
I forgot to add one point in my previus letter:
What is the dire necessity for the BJP to field Ela.Ganesanji in South Chennai. They should have taken adequate steps to field a known candidate, a celebrity or a public figure with all round acceptability. AT LEAST, we could have persuaded Madipakkam Sarath Babu (IIM guy who came from a poor background and who possess great ideals) to contest on LOTUS symbol. Unfortunately, we waited for Vijayakanth, and wasted our time in indulging in speculations about post poll alliance with AIADMK.
- V V Rajan.
it sud continue
Though I wanted to post a comment on 16th itself, did not have any enthu to even do that. I just finished reading to most of the comments in this section. Its surely disappointing and really feels bad at the way BJP and NDA have fared in these elections. But as most of us have pointed out, we need to be together and carry on the good work. And the BJP MUST wake up from its slumber. They should do some serious soul searching and take ACTUAL actions and not any window dressing. They should look at foll factors:
They should focus on the urban middle class and the youth along with trying to ring others around too.
1) Why could not they bring out their achievements in front of people?
2) Why couldn’t they counter the negativity and negative propaganda and a negative media?
3) Why could not they handle the Varun issue properly? As had been pointed out by many, he won but made the party lose all over.
4) Why were many voices talking it different directions?? Whose brilliant idea is to bring up a stupid discussion as who will be PM candidate in 2014 when present elections were yet to be over?
5) Why could they not focus on real issues and bring out the actual flaws, faults, failures, wrong doings of this Govt properly in from of the people of India?
6) Instead of focusing on real issues, the whole campaign got embroiled with controversies, which gave the Congress, and the pseudo secular English News channels to have a field day in highlighting and criticizing the BJP.
7) They should learn lessons and create constituencies else(as has been pointed out here), they will become a non entity without any core support base.
9) They should put their own house in order. The party with a difference has become a party with hardly any difference. At least one family rule works in Congress. We should rebuild our organization, remove deadwood, clean waste and bring in more your and dynamic leaders. And foremost, they should not only promote inner party democracy like always(unlike Congress) but also adhere to it. No multiple voices, no multiple groups, no infighting, no tent wallas Vs other fights.
10) Please for India’s sake learn your mistakes and work towards forming a BJP Govt in 2014.
Hope BJP and its leaders are listening. More than they its people like us who had pinned so much hope on the BJP are a disillusioned lot. We are disappointed and sad. But at the same time we are ready to wait, have patience and help the BJP to recover, provided they are ready to change else, they will lost people like us too and will be reduced to a less than 100 seats party in future.
Alo even though we respect leaders of BJP, many of them have let us down with their personal agendas, personal public fights with each others, sulking, talking in different voices, projecting multiple PMs and doing everything else other than projecting the Good of BJP and the Bad of Congress. All of them forgot the core reason of this election. Sometimes I wonder why was a single list of achievements and good points of BJP not compiled and released in an advertisement along with comparisons to what Congress has done(or not done).
Anyways I guess most of us have been having similar thots. Lets HOPE BJP Listens, forget the drubbing, and move ahead with renewed vigor.
Pity the Nation”, by Khalil Gibran
Pity the nation that is full of beliefs and empty of religion.
Pity the nation that acclaims the bully as hero,
and that deems the glittering conqueror bountiful.
Pity the nation that raises not its voice
save when it walks in a funeral,
boasts not except among its ruins,
and will rebel not save when its neck is laid
between the sword and the block.
Pity the nation whose statesman is a fox,
whose philosopher is a juggler,
and whose art is the art of patching and mimicking.
Pity the nation that welcomes its new ruler with trumpeting,
and farewells him with hooting,
only to welcome another with trumpeting again.
Pity the nation whose sages are dumb with years
and whose strong men are yet in the cradle.
Pity the nation divided into into fragments,
each fragment deeming itself a nation.
First listen, BJP is a national party, not an all India party. Five states Kerala, Tamilnadu, Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and Paschim Bengal have 163 lok sabha seats and BJP won only 1 seats from Darjeling. If BJP want to emerge again as single largest party and want to cross 200+ seats it is necessary to extent its organization into these states.
On the other hand BJP should change its leadership with next generation.
To please all the BJP supporters, let me say it in your own words.
Dharma prevailed in the land of Rama.
Good won over evil.
And the country is in the hands of able leadership.
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To Smitha (who wrote the above comment)
Why the above are “BJP SUPPORTERS” words and not your words?
Why is it that you shy away from anything that remotely instills hindu pride?
What is it with you guys who feel pride in abhorring the very culture that this land was known for?
I would love to keep a BJP flag flying in my car from today till BJP comes to power.
Everytime my car goes around, people will see it and will feel BJP as relevant or non-relevant…
Party should make BJP to be felt relevant to all…
FoBJPians….how about flying a BJP flag in all our cars from today until we see BJP in the seats of power?
Dear friends of BJP,
I am very much disappointed with this result but still trying to calculate what has gone wrong ?I have wrote a lot to party but they never realized that they post a thanks for but we will continue for party and analyze state wise . first we take up the UP .IN UP both maya and mulayam are severly unpopular .but BJP never tried to cash it and party has given so weak candidates that defeat was sure. E.g. PRATAPGARH GURUJI had lost the previous MLA election and he is on fifth position what is wrong?no one know him in pratagarh and he was not capable to BRAHMIN votes and all BRAHMIN voted for RATNA singh due to pramode tiwari .SEEMA diwadi was wrong selection from JAUNPUR . if seema was compulsion then some heavy weight thakur leader was required to help her but party could not manage it. From GONDA ram pratap singh lost his MLA seat from SADDULLAH NAGAR how could he win MP?and BENI wins this shows how much maya and mulayam was in trouble . from ROBERSTGANJ RAM SHAKAL is always loosing but getting ticket and PAKAUDI LAL wins what is this?DR. mahendra pandey shifted to BHADHOHI and MANOJ SHINHA shifted BALLIA. Every one knows that pandey can gajipur and shinha can not win BALLIA.why BHARAT or RAM IQBAL were not tried or party should have tried for second son of chandrashekhher?why sushmasawraj has not fought anginst sonia as second constituency other than vidisha when it was clear that is there is no fight in vidisha. Why rajnath singh not opted eastern UP becoz it is his native place and would have created a psychological effect to party. Why MM JOSHI left Allahabad , thanks MUKHTAR who made him easy other wise results we know.why Amethi given so weak candidate ?Satydeo singh loosing every time but again he was given.one thing is very clear where BJP candidate were strong they all wined and all loose candidates lost.so defeat of BJP is due to weak candidates nothing else and antiincumbancy was gained by congress no magic of RAHUL or SONIA BJP lost due to its own problems.where is KALRAJ , KESHRI, RAM PRAKAS,RAMA PATI RAM , OM PRAKASH, all are socalled stalwarts and can not manage their own area, why they are holding the post.If BJP is suffering with lack of leaders why youngs are not given chance. My suggestion is that u put 5 thakur, 5brahamin , 5kurmi, 5jat,5bhumihar,5sc/st new chaps and open fire against MAYA WATI and make UP paralysed and compaign must be launched against state govt and if old leaders are fearing then give chance to new .pour every paper against state govt and make photo and publish in every media.MAYA is so unpopular that BJP will surly gain. And this is best time to leave all alliaces including shivsena and make ur own strength.go for UP assembaly election from now and donot for give for any mis take of state govt
I think, Friends of BJP must do the following.
1. Convince the BJP central leadership to have a quarterly performance appraisal of the BJP ruled state governments. This is extremely important to keep the state leaders to stay focused on development. The development in BJP ruled states must be there for all to see and other states must realize on what they are missing out by not voting for the BJP.
2. Convince the central leadership to have performance appraisals of the BJP MPs. Publish in the BJP website and in national dailies as to what each MP is doing with his allotted funds.
3. Increase the presence in states like Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and West Bengal where BJP has little or no presence. We must start work for 2014 right away.
First of all the Friends of BJP should take the views of the “friends of BJP” posted here and as mentioned by Alok here not merely send a “thank you” mail. Since they are in touch with the BJP honchos…our voice should be heard by them and all these points should be taken into consideration.
the trick is that the citizen of India’s involvement in government making is only the press of a button…where is his involvement on a personal basis…I think with this forum…the citizen of India should be given the platform of actual involvement in government making and not being “USED” during polling
1)I think there are a host of wonderful suggestions in this post and a thorough analysis of all these suggestions should be done and a 10 point agenda should be developed.
2) friends of BJP should urge the BJP leadership to play a constructive role in the opposition and not merely disrupt sessions.
The results of the elections saddened me for India, and for what the Congress n Sonia would do to India. There was some hope in this elections but.. anyways..
The performance of BJP in this elections only makes us more aggressive.
1. I feel we should work “with” the people and “for” the people - not just during the elections but throughout. This way the people will know whom they can trust n who is makin false promises.
2. From time to time, highlight the issues solved, new/old schemes brought in for the betterment of the people, reforms made and let everyone know that we are with them thru thick n thin.
3. I dunno what or how, but do something about the biased media who colors BJP black n the congress white even though the congress has a darker shade of black (yeah, the deepest black there is)
well bjp was able to retain majority of the states this loss is more of a loss of third front than bjp.I feel the major reasons of setbacks for bjp are as follows and i surely feel if these changes are done they would be able to win the next elections :-
1)Bjp should make inroads into states in south in 5 years atleast the ground network of dedicated party workers should be established in states like tamil nadu,andhra pradesh,kerala hence first part is strong presence in south should be established.
2)
Fine tuning is required in the states like Rajhasthan and Maharashtra. In rajhasthan change of leadership is required the dynastic issue does not touch peoples heart if you yourself have a dynastic chief minister,In maharashtra raj and udhav thakre divide has to be sorted out soon bjp could have easily won 12 seats if this divide was not there in maharashtra.
3)
Indian politics now is all about aggregation of statte issues that is what congress strategy was as they made major inroads into bengal and kerala on the basis of local issues and not on national issues.
4)
Expansion of NDA is another excersis that should be done especially south because last 2 elections southern india has been the saviour of congress and not other parts of the country there is a need to polorise anti incumbancy in south or there should be a single platform contesting in southern india against congress so that anti incumbancy votes are not divided for example tdp,aiadmk,prp only left should be left out from this calculation.
we must understand like in cricket you cant win them all but we must put this setback behind and work towards maharashtra elections that arer coming up in 4 months where BJP-SHIV SENA-MNS if combined together than it can win coz from now on every state is important.
First let us find ways to start a media company
Let us not go deep into analysing why we have failed and go on harping on this.
Let us focus for the future. Assembly elections are around in Maharashtra, Jharkhand, Haryana and Bihar.
Identify good and sincere leaders in all these states and project them. For example Nitin Gadkari in Mah, Rajiv Pratap Rudy or Ravi Sankar Prasad in Bihar and carry on the activities.
Identify yourself with the masses. List out the needs of the constituencies and take up the issues.
Beware of Nitish and JDU build the party
Ganesh
As suggested by many the BJP is only going to gain immensely by acknowledging the thoughts of people in this forum. This the truth and the bare truth. Your analysts and workers give you unreal and hyped observations for personal gains and your strategy is based on false facts. The suggestions given here are by people who are genuinely interested in the BJP’s welfare and do not expect posts and tickets. Please consider us seriously for the welfare of the “BJP COMMUNITY” which should include leaders, workers, and public, all working towards one goal that is to beat the Congress at its own game and thereby give this country a government that it did not get after six decades of independence.
Hi Count
Good to know that you are from bangalore..this is our big chance to showcase BJP -this is the only bastion in the south and Yeddy better watch it - he must focus on good goverance, development and start doing something for the city. Krntka is such an important state now for BJP and we got to ensure that Yeddy does not fail - we have to prove them wrong. ANy more from bangalore ? Lets get going and seehow we can get out messge to the CM .The perception that BJP is not secular has to be corrected and we got to correct that perception.
How do we get to Yeddy ? he too needs todo someimage building..
BJP CANNOT mess up this one.
Viva
dear arunisha, I am friend of BJP since i was 4yrs kid and my grandfather died in jail during emergency due to police torture and my mother and father both were underground more than 2yrs.i am from AMETHI and so many offers given by congress leadership but we never left BJP though so many stalwarts left bjp and joined different parties and enjoying power.for thanks i am not worring my idea is to know is some from top leadership is listening or not.i donot need any post or help from party.i was in UP govt job in class2 officer grade but left the job due to RAMVIR UPPADHAY and joined private company and presently out of UP .but i always worry for UP.i need not any help from BJP .but still committed for the party becoz i hate congress and love BJP till death.if BJP cannot win UP then it can not make govt in DELHI. and BJP must enhance its confidence in UP coming election and must make its aggressive presence in UP .there thousands of thousands issues in UP against MAYA.and UP is full of problems but we have start fight on roads and why BJP is o liberal to MAYA.now congress will activate its gundas in UP against MAYA and toppel the MAYA govt very soon and will go for fresh election becoz left is not with congress and no one is so able to manage congress.RAHUL will stay in UP and will increas its base when ever MAYA prevent him for doing so the congress will implement 356 in UP or it will try to manage SC MISHRA and give him ministry in centre .so election in UP will be very soon and congress will never give chance to MAYA and all files against MAYA will be opened very soon and she will be arrested in a month or two and finally she has to resign and eihter MISHRA or SHASKSHEKHER will be UP cheifminister . so u prepare for election and dont support MAYA in any case and make MAYAs way measurable and dont stop her death with the hands of congress. prepare ur list for MLAs and chik the dummy leadres whomever he is field new candidates .and put VHP and BAJRANG DAL ahead is AYODHYA it is fittest time for MANDIR issue…..alok
Following is my friend RCP’s response to my above message:-
dear venki,
HEARTIEST CONGRATS !!! for giving an excellent article with facts and figures .It is really a masterpiece in every aspect that too practical suggestions taking into account several ground realities and figures.
May i add a few points of mine for further considerations and to supplement what u have said.
Its a ground reality that voters do tend to have a bias even today to vote for their caste candidates irrespective of political affiliations and KONGU VELLALAR PERAVAI s a fine example of it since it has garnered a sizeable votes in their favour ultimately spoiling several parties of the ruling and opposition political parties.
Firstly, As u have rightly pointed out the BJP is clearly missing a strong national level Media channel that communicates to the elite audiences comparable to that of NDTV, CNN-IBN, TIMES NOW etc.
nor do they have a national dailies like THE HINDU whose leftist bias is well known. This caters to the needs of educated andealite classess.
secondly, the ideological parent of BJP ie, the RSS needs to introspect itself as to its real position and priorities in the hands of a common indian citizen. one cannot always be talking of RAM & HINDU RASHTRA forgetting theROTI and MAKHAN . RSS really needs to do a lot of ground work including usage of regional languages in its commands and communications.( even) i had felt difiiculty in communicating the commands, and messages to my own fellow swayam sevaks when i was the mukya sikshak during my early days. This leads to alienation in states like Tamilnadu and other non hindi speaking states. It is the responsibility of the RSS to see to that the huge crowd pullers like LOCAL FESTIVALS which are an important and indespensible part of CULTURAL india is being celebrated with much granduer and fanfare ultimately establishing the fact that it is these types of rurual festivities, car festivals , cultural get-to gethers that make india a well diversified land but with a United ideology of honouring the guests, (vasudaiva kudumbakam). please note that it is the MAHA KUMBH MELA, MAHAMAHAM etc. that has the worlds lagest conglomeration of humans in one area.and BJP can even think of properly utilising the KASHI - RAMESWARAM religious YATRA that bounds every HINDU to b UNDERTAKEN ATLEAST ONCE in his lifetime. RSS can offer TAX-, TRavel sops if they organise themselves under a single banner that enjoys the patronage of RSS/BJP. Thay can even think of organising new interstate religious festivals that are affordale and time boud .(like the sabarimalai yatras etc.)
Thirdly BJP must have good communication networks within the party itself and must try to speak in one voice . ( a best example of worst communication and coordination is the statement by LKAdvaniji in his ignorance of accompaniying kandhahar terrorists., MODI as PM candidate etc.
My points regarding the nationalism may be crude but, it was because of the mangalore pub incident (many of the ladies do suopported the attacks saying females going to pubs are totally unacceptable to our culture and they do deserve these types of harsh treatments. So what i am trying to tell is that the BJP must have speeches like that of varun gandhi’s one ( mind u he is a winner from philibit)
like vetrikondan, theeppori arumugam of dravidian parties who are capable of attracting the massess. u need basic groud level workers like kkssr, phpandian, kaaduvetti guru, who is acceptable easily to the lower strata and who has high patronage among the poors,uneducated & extreme idealogues.
i have a lot more also to share and tell
but this mail is indeed a spontaneous outpour on seeing the bed time effort by you.
thank you once again for this exceelnt thought provoking mail.
i will b glad if u could kindly provide ur valuable FEEDBACK for this mail
pl. take care of ur health
with regds
rcp
hi dear all I am native of andhra pradesh and a die hard supporter of BJP since the days of janmabhoomi agitation.This loss of BJP gave me depression for last 2days but I realised this is the beginning of fight for BJP,few of the things that BJP did during campaign cost BJP,they should not have made terrorism an issue ,LKA should have avoided touring MUMBAI immediately after 26/11 this created a wrong impression in the minds of voters that they wanted to get political mileage out of the incident,had he remained passive the advantage to BJP would have gone anyways.BJP did a good job of creating new states,however when it comes to Telangana or Gorkhaland the issues are completely different,BJP started gaining ground in AP especially telangana region today I am sure they would have atleast 5-10seats now had they dumped the telangana issue ,for which there is a negative sentiment throughout AP as reflected by the results,BJP should dump this issue of division of states and work at core level in AP in the future.
@ SIR
हमारे देश की मीडिया एक तो पक्षपाती (biased) है दूसरी पित्त पत्रकारिता (yellow journalism ) की शिकार है .यदि अडवाणी जी २६ / ११ के बाद मुंबई नहीं जाते तो मीडिया यह कहती कि अडवाणी जी और बीजेपी का प्रमुख मुद्दा आंतकवाद है फिर वो मुंबई घायल और मृत लोगों के परिवारों को सहानुभुति व्यक्त करने नहीं गए ,यदि गए तो इल्जाम यदि नहीं जाते तो इल्ज़ाम यानी चित्त भी मेरी और पट भी मेरी .
I feel a nation wide survey has to be launched by the BJP in order to ascertain what were the reasons for its debacle. By a survey, what i mean is that sociologists and researchers will have to be used who visit different parts of the country with questionnaires and use the quota sampling method to get peoples view on the party, i would also like to state that this survey has to be carried out in both urban and rural areas, middle class, lower middle class and working class localities. I guess by doing so the BJP will get a clear picture of what needs to be done in the future. If the party needs my help, i am always ready to share my expertise, moreover i feel with these elections there has been some kind of a polarisation between the bureaucracy and the armed forces, in the coming five years the bureaucracy is going to make life hell for the forces, the BJP must highlight the plight of our forces and use the epxertise of exservicemen and even choose some of them as candidates, i must also say that interna; security scenario will worsen in these five years, the BJP has to prepare a comprehensive national security blueprint, if manmohan singh brought in economic reforms, the BJP should highlight the fact that it is ready to bring in aggresive national security reforms, remember once Modiji said that we need a specialsied cadre of intelligence officers to man our intelligence services instead of IPS officers!, the battle has begun friends, we have to prepare ourselves for the next five years, please do not lose heart, its been around 15 years since conservatives in the UK have sat in the opposition with the Labour party in power but now there is a resurgence among the conservatives again, we have to prepare will for the next battle in 2014, i hope we all are ready for it
I Guess people who were actively attached with friends of bjp in different cities should be included in organization as part of organizational teams and given responsibility…we should be part of active BJP irrespective of our disconnect with RSS. We have shown we could work hard in a management way…I hope This goes down well with all
Some of my thoughts on this drubbing.
- The mandate to BJP is clear that it should work as a constructive opposition. The voters seem to be in favour of National parties marginalising the blackmailers.
- To start with do not contest for the speaker’s post. BJP can either vote in favour of the Confidence motion or abstain instead of voting against the motion. This will generate goodwill and also prevent the smaller parties from blackmailing.
- Nation should come before everything else any positive policy should whole heartedly be supported if it is good for the country.
- Should not resort to holding up the proceedings, hungama. Proper protest without wasting the nations time and money, only should be resorted to.
- Negative campaigning should have been avoided. Mr. Advani should have stuck only to positive issues and avoided directly taking on the PM.
- Controversial issues should be put on the back burner and development issues should have been the main plank.
- BJP got sidetracked by non issues raised by media and tied itself into knots trying to explain these issues, thereby falling into the trap. BJP should have set the agenda and avoided non issues..
- Cong made issues like withdrawal of Red corner alerts, bringing in black money stashed away in Swiss Banks, Anti Sikh riots, etc into non issues. - It appears that the urban electorate has deserted BJP. Efforts should be made to capture the imagination of this category.
- BJP ruled states should act like model states and invest heavily on education, infrastructure (roads, bridges, piped water supply, underground drainage, etc), and healthcare. Should be synonymous with Good governance.
- BJP had to sustain a hostile campaign against it by the media. It should strategise to counter , neutralise / reduce hostility. Media handling and PR should be done by professionals, who can be employed by the party.
- BJP should promote its own channel / Newspapers to be run by professionals for objectivity and credibility - of course minus the hostility and bias.
- Should consciously develop youth and media savvy persons to handle media. A select band of 50 to 100 people should undergo intensive sessions on media handling and PR. Sessions to be handled by both Indian and Foreign experts. The representative in the debates on the media, seminar etc should present the young face of BJP. - BJP should cultivate interest groups, intellectuals, NGOs to take such issues through the Court, RTI, articles, letters to editors, seminars, internet etc. These interest groups can keep these campaigns alive throughout without these things having to surface only at the time of elections.
- Should cultivate Journalists, who can present the party’s point of view.
- BJP should take part in all Bye elections (both for assembly and Parliament) especially in states like Kerala, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal Andhra where the party is weak by fielding a National level leader or a sitting MPs ( People like Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley, Sidhu, Rudy, Shahnawaz Khan, Naqvi etc). Even if they lose it does not matter as this will enable the party to get visibility, galvanise the cadres and develop a Base in these states. Party can draw upon its cadres from other states for these bye elections and run a focussed campaign, which otherwise would not be possible during the general elections.
- The party should work with 2014 in mind. Senior leaders should go into Rajya Sabha and a majority of the seats should be given to younger candidates thereby passing on the baton to the next generation.
- The party should expand its base. Should be broad based across all regions, religion, caste, class etc.
बीजेपी को चाहिए……
बीजेपी को चाहिए कि फ्रेंड्स ऑफ़ बीजेपी के पोर्टल/साईट पर लिखने वालों और अपनी राय या प्रतिक्रिया व्यक्त करने वाले सदस्यों को दिल्ली आमंत्रित करे ,जिससे आगे भविष्य की कार्य योजना बनाने में इन सदस्यों की मदद ली जा सके .और जरुरत हो तो ऐसे सदस्यों को अपनी काबिलियत के अनुसार टीम में शामिल कर कोई जिम्मेदारी भी सौंपी जा सके .
The points that I think were against BJP were:
1) We did not have a young leader to show for. Most of the young people I talk to always say that Rahul Gandhi is good because he is good. Therefore, we should also project a young dynamic leader like Arun Jaitley or Sushma Swaraj.
Dear friends,
from now on lets resolve to rationally and objectively analyze everything in utmost details before giving our input and explain the same to everyone. Otherwise the job of defeating congress i admit is impossible and i am afraid bjp will be reduced to below 50 in next elections.
many of us bjp supporters, i must admit including me were simply carried away by passion and put logic in backyard.
the idea of Advaniji as PM filled filled our emotions so much that it became impossible for us to objectively judge our strentgh/weakness/objectives/threats vis-a-vis traitors. we simply hoped average Indians all round the country will echo our feelings and reciprocate by blindly voting for bjp. voters will not change nor learn if they haven’t in 60years, we need to learn what makes them tick.
first issue we need to settle by objective discussion is who will be the next leader.
i am glad that Advaniji has agreed to remain as leader in this turbulent time. and we all owe to him for this and all those leaders who convinced him to remain. but eventually we have to choose a new leader and our analytical skills will do that not our passion.
the congress will certainly have Rahul as next PM candidate so we need to first evaluate rahul and choose the next leader to counter him head on.
Rahuls points (in scale of 1-5)
it is in this format:
attributes : score as i perceive, score i think people perceive with comment
education :2, 5 [he just has below average education but some foreign degrees
full the public]
media savvy: 3, 5 [ he really owns the media.]
oratory: 0, 2 [too much grooming has improved him little bit]
leadership skill: 5, 5 [he doesn't need this. congressmen are his slaves and will
do whatever he says but that is the definition of leadership]
IQ : 2, 5[ he is promoted as celebrity by media and people of our
country do whatever celebrities say/promote. so in a way
people think celebrities are smart]
Name recall : 5, 5
experience : 0,3 [but as BO has proved this really doesn't matter much.at the
same time he will carry the experience of congress]
backup support : 5, 5[congress excels in this one. he has good professional team
behind in tharoor ,montek etc,assuming MMS will be out by
then. these people may be of power hungry enough to sell their country but they are professionally accomplished and people only see that part].
honesty : 0, 5[he may not have signed any corrupt deals but being part of this narcissistic dynasty i cannot give more. but people will see him clean]
My was a simple analysis and i am not competent enough to do more so i urge readers here to add to it.
but next leader whoever it be must be selected after objectively scoring on the points agreed. he must better RG on every point . also we know of this real strength and what people perceive . and the objective of the campaign will be
to narrow the difference by whatever means .
DO NOT CRITICIZE CONGRESS OR ITS LEADERS IN PARLIAMENT. JUST LET PEOPLE REACT TO THEIR GOVERNANCE. LEAVE IT TO PEOPLE ONLY.
2) Varun Gandhi may have won his seat with huge margin but it definitely took away atleast 15-20 seats from BJP. Delhi, Bombay and UP were the states that had direct impact.
As a young educated person when you look at somebody talking like that, you are definitely turned off. No way people of Urban India can vote for a person who talks like that.
PS: I have nothing against Varun Gandhi and I think he is an excellent orator and I have heard his speeches earlier also. I think he just needs to rethink his ways of winning votes.
3) I belong to the West Delhi constituency, which was supposedly the bastion of BJP( I havent seen congress win for 25 years there) . But this time we lost that too. Maybe because of the so called wave, but there is something seriously wrong and I have heard people say some anti party activities were going on . This is really a shame because there was news that Manmohan Singh wud stand from there, but I guess then he was afraid that he might loose from the seat again. And still we lost the election which is really painful.
Party organization should be made to support the leader who is standing the election.
4) Another point during the whole election was that Congress kept on saying that it was the SECULAR alliance and BJP did nothing to cancel out their false propoganda. It was as if BJP had accepted that they are non secular alliance.
A campaign should be run projecting BJP as non secular.( Obviously Varun Gandhi should not be the star campaigner. :))
5)Party should woo muslims too. Going with the strategy that let congress have all the Muslims and we will have all the hindus is an absurbd idea. It needs to change now. Try to get as many people and play inclusive politics.
6)Bringing up issues like Ayodhya is of no use. Seriously I dont know what is going on the minds of leaders when they talk about it. I am sure even half of the leader inside BJP dont believe in it now. We should feel the pulse of the nation and the people and bring out points that affect them.
7) We won I think 4-5 seats in the eastern coastal region. Definitely, party should start building in these states now. This was the case in 2004 election too and we heard last time also that there would be measures taken improve tally in these states but we havent seen any till date.
8)Delhi is another state which I think BJP has neglected for a long time. Absence of a strong leader is the the state is cause of failure of BJP in delhi.
I think these are some points that we needd to look at and start preparing for next election from now only.
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The strengthening of the organisation by us in the FOBJP and BJP associated bodies talking to more and more people about the party the philosophy and the core values and going on recruitment drives starting NOW and expanding the party base in at least constituenceies and states where there are BJP MLA’s MP’s and the losing candidates going all out to strengthen party structures where they lost with actions and deeds that show them as people who deliver and exemplary performance by the elected MPs of the BJP as opoosition and their accesibility to people at all times unlike thier congress counterparts.
we need to look for simple reason for debacle……
1)did we able to meet more and more people……..JAN SAMPARK…..at grass root level ………
2)What abt infighting in party in total hirechy …… and your volunteers are confuse……….so does public and voters at large……………….
3)Arrogance of leaders as well as KARYAKARTA………towards voters……………
let us come out to work as a team………
this mandate is not in favour of congress but it is against or not in favour of bjp……………
things can be change…..in days to come…………if we work as a team not individual…..
We must compromise with Raj Thakare in Maharashtra
We should Never underestimate to anyone
es it is disappoining results but i see the mandat differently !!
People have voted very intellegently how !!
1.Congress have won 206 seats its not a clear cutmandate & its prepoll allies makes it to 260 odd
2.People choose congress because in last five years they did not do anything except Indo US agreement & thereafter nothing espicially for economic slowdown,throwing tax payers money in a black hole like NSRGE,Loan waivers to farmers etc.etc…Mesh created by economic slowdown,High Inflation ,Higher Deficit …& its ill effect on the general public ….They voted for Congress to clean up the mesh created by them during last 5 years. Dr.Manmohan Singh wanted 100 days but people of India gave him 1600 days .Now they have to excuses of Left not allwoing then & all. if they falter again then its end gaim for congress.
BJP will have to very very vigilent & will to play a role very responsible opposition ,go after UPA as a watch dog ..
AND lastly will have to train their leaders as to what to speak & when and particullarly on Live media as they are playing very important role in spreading news true/false/mischevious.It damages a lot . there is a saying in HIndi that( Na bolne me Nave gun ) restain their leaders .
it is disappoining results but i see the mandat differently !!
People have voted very intellegently how !!
1.Congress have won 206 seats its not a clear cut mandate,with its prepoll allies makes it to 260 odd
2.People choose congress because in last five years they did not do anything except Indo US agreement & thereafter nothing espicially for economic slowdown,throwing tax payers money in a black hole like NSRGE,Loan waivers to farmers etc.etc…Mess created by economic slowdown,High Inflation ,Higher Deficit …& its ill effect on the general business & public ….They voted for Congress so that it can clean up the mess created by them during last 5 years. Dr.Manmohan Singh wanted 100 days but people of India gave him 1600 days .Now they have no excuses of Left not allwoing then work & all. if they falter again then its end for congress.
BJP will have to play a very very vigilent & will to play a role very responsible opposition ,go after UPA as a watch dog ..
AND lastly will have to train their leaders as to what to speak & when and particullarly on Live media as they are playing very important role in spreading news true/false/mischevious.It damages a lot . there is a saying in HIndi that( Na bolne me Nave gun ) restain their leaders .
The question here is that of *connecting* with an urban audience rather than *marketing* to them. I’d recommend that for all BJP-led constituencies, we should start tracking the performance of MPs and MLAs. Their activities should be updated on a monthly basis. Their achievements and non-achievements should be discussed in a transparent manner (a must for it to have any sort of credibility) and it must be open to public. In fact, this system should be used to decide which sitting MP or MLA would get a ticket again. Come next elections, we should let their performance speak rather than indulging in marketing speak. Transparency will go a long way in connecting with the urban audience.
I think it is Varun Gandhi and long episode of Christian bashing has limited the scope of BJP in think Lok Sabha.
Christian are not a major group in India and they never came as attacking group. So, attack on Christian has made bad impression among large number of people. There should be a simple plan to tackle the conversion issue. I think, it must be limited to state level only and never allowed to become a national issue. and central politician of BJP must look unknown or not involved in this episode.
At the last time Varun statement was very good in reviving people’s mind. Varun kind of statement only can be tasted on the state; thats only in states like Orisa, where you are very less in number. Anyway Varun’s statement was very very bad.
All Smiles!
Dear Friends ,
To much has been said by the media and in this form also that we lost due to varun gandhi and narendra modi factor.
But i beg to differ form this ——-
i think we were not able to perform well due to simple arithmetic failure and our failure to have clear cut agenda for the elections.
AN dfew seats what we have managed to get in up is because of varun gandhi factor only.
In maharashtra we did not take raj thackrey factor into consideration.
In Uttar Pradesh we dont have a leader with mass support base.
In state like West Bengal,Orissa and Andra Pradesh we need to focus by building a strong student leadership.Here role of ABVP is very vital.
In place like delhi we dont have a leadership to counter shela dikshit , we should rope in person like navjot singh siddhu.
Also we should stop being apolgetic for our core issues like temple not only in ayodhya but also in kashi and mathura , Art 370 AND uniform civil code.
also during the election persons like chandan mitra and prakah javedkar did not good to our caause because they were not aggreesive and convenicing in their presence.
i think we need to take this friends of BJP to more micro level.
Apart form that route to centre lies in not only overhauling the organisations but to be sure and confident and not be in doldrusm in our ideology.
It is not that people have given mandate to Congress but by accident they have got this mandate.
We repeated same mistakes as of 2004.
I would like to put a question to this form we fought on positive governance in 2004 we lost
in 2009 we tried to fought on anti incummbency we lost .
in both the elections our core issues are missing .And insteaed of saying that we will build ram temple in ayodhya on ly on geeting 272 sets we should move forwrad with our ideology and take peoples support and start a mass people movement .
also we should not be hostage of our allys and try to build our own organisation instates like orrissa ,haryanda, maharashtra assam,bihar.
Regards
Rishikesh
Further to what i have aforesaid said
i would like to add that friends of BJP SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO TO SET AGENDA AND WORK ACTIVELY FOR JHARKHAND,BENGAL AND MAHARASHTRA,BIHAR ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS .
SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE SERIOUS OF ENTERING ACTIVE POLITICS SHOULD BE DRAFTED IN TO ABVP,AND DIFFERENT WINGS OF BJP
As usual most of the comments above concentrate on blaming every one else except ourselves.
Yes external factors did contribute to the loss but to just blame others for this is wrong.
Friends of BJP is a very small orgn and has very limited reach. First the party has to re organize and re orient itsef. It has to conduct a thorough introspection and then make drastic changes where necessary. Simply shouting from roof tops about Muslims, missionaries etc wont get us victory.
We need to be pragmatic and realistic.
Two times (2004, 2009) negetive messaging about congress, media, minorities etc has failed us.
I read some where that instead of concentrating on what the congress has not done, had the BJP concentrated its messaging on what it can do, then BJP would have seen better results.
If we still dont learn any thing from this and still keep harping about what others did to us than seeing what we did to ourselves then we will lose the next election as well.
BJP is seen mistakenly as a communal organisation, even by educated persons, because of false propganda by other politcal parties and also English electronic media. This has not been countered adequately.BJP could start its own electronic channel, to have sufficient publicity for its views.
BJP should start a youth wing, which should work for educating the illiterate, helping the needy in times of natural calamities,helping women form SHGs and advise them,etc.The party should make itself visible to the masses thus, so that the latter carry a proper image of the party.Such an initiative is a must throughout India, especially in South, where the common man knows little about BJP.
Friends of BJP Should forget the past and just start doing service to the poor in education, employment, Housing, Basic Nessities of Life etc.
For the Middle Class to give Enterpruniership opportunities for their growth. This will help their family to grow.
Always be on the move weather the new govt is taking care of construction of Roads and other important matters. Take this to the general public. if it still does not happen go to the courts and get the orders.
For the upper class you always have to tell them about the work you do for the poor and the middle class and ask them for their help. They will definitely help generousely.
This will lead to a big family and will lead us directly to Delhi.
We should show our strength with our work.
Last but not the least Education for Girl Child, Employment and Enterprunership development for them. All Mass Marriage Programmes and Health Programmes will contribute to the Tally.
The friends of BJP came just before the elections, till then it was nowhere. The issues of congress failing at center was not highlighted properly by the BJP. We could not hear much voice of BJP men when they were in opposition. Added to this the media of-course, which is in the hands of pseudo-secular men ruined the prospects of BJP.
- Dayananda
There is nothing to worry about loosing. BJP has already won everyone’s hearts. Patience always pays. But sad thing is that educated people and BJP supporting folks wont come out and vote on election day. For example two of my friends did not vote because they had to enjoy some Bullshit party and outing somewhere.
The Only way BJP can win atleast next election is to make VOTING MANDATORY or sit back and enjoy congress / others victory…
I am writing this letter to all citizens of India with a heavy heart. Thanks for READING atleast…
all the member in friends of BJP should actively should participate in RSS. And I request that to file a case against election commissionaire for maul functioning and also some accuse of wrong programing done in EVM.
fwe
“There is no full stop in politics”….as Modi ji puts it….The silver lining is that …now u know the mantras ..that lead u closer to the masses……lets start working on them.from today…..miles to go before i sleep…..
1.i think bjp has commented to much on manmohansingh & on congres party,which has turned as nagative factor.
2.now bjp should work silently with common people & should win their hearts. any party who remain in touch with the people always win.
3.while keeping in touch with the people bjp can communicate about its ideology suceesfully. i think if people are convinced on necessity of abolition of article370 & uniform civil code bgp will definetely have edge over others.this campainge has to carried at grassroot level,& please note no nagative comments on opposisite party or their leaders.
4.i dont think,now their is no existence of nda.
bjp should fight on its own agenda & should contest election on all seats.even with allies it has not won,so there is no harm to contest singally with preparation to sit as opposition,but it will lay solid foundation & people will believe that this is a party with diffrence.
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Here are things BJP should do…
1) RSS and BJP should sit together and setup a team of 4-5 key people (with RSS background) who can take key decision such as who should be leader of opposition, BJP president etc..
2) RSS and BJP has to take a decision if they need each other or not.
3) BJP can not win election on Hindu or development votes alone. They need a mixture of both.
4) They should make 4-5 teams who can work on specific areas right now. e.g. Arun shuri can take a lead on bringing all the university students together. So he can form a team whose only focus will be to make people aware of Sangh and BJP activities. Arun Jateli can lead a team of professionals in India. Rajnath Singh can take a lead of a team to bring all the farmers together and so on……..
5) Today DMK owns it’s own TV channel. Jaya also own one. BJP should also buy a news channel.
Some Instances of Media Bias:
1)Sikh-riot is old-and-should-be-forgotten issue whereas Godhra riot is cant-be-forgotten issue.
2) Naveen Patnaik leaving is an end of NDA whereas Lalu,Mulayam and PAswan ditching UPA is business as usual.
3) the children of retiring congressmen is youth whereas people who have struggled to come to the top are old and narrow minded people.
4) Bofors is a dead horse whereas Tehelka issue is an evergreen weed.
5) Black money is not-to-be-politicised issue whereas some trivial issues are of great importance.
Media has paid back to the Congress by spreading hatred against the BJP. They are paying back for the Padma shrees.
Media should be ashamed of itself.
BJP needs to start its own independent channel.
First we need to analyse the cause of our failure.
Uttarpradesh & Rajasthan should be our next big target for the next LS.
BJP doen’t an ally in many states like West Bengal, these are large states we need to have a strong organisation.
BJP should bring youth faces in their party.
We should decide who is going to our leader, we need some strong leader & should be a new face, I would suggest a young woman should be our leader.
In my opinion BJP lost favor from urban voters coz of lack of clear policy on problems being faced by urbanites.
From times immemorial we have heard that farmers paid some part of their income as tax. This should continue even if it is a small percentage. Why should the urban non farmeres be only burdened with all kinds of tax. and inspite of surging commodity prices the rural counterparts pay no income or sales tax, get free power, free water, get their loans waived and still be considerd the under priveledged. This is all against the urbanites. and we all know that even a lion will forget hunting for prey if he is spoon fed. so in the better interest of farmers and to increase the efiiciency of farming let them compete.
another issue that should have been taken in the manifesto is to stop the rottening of grains proucured by the govt. and to efficiently manage the complete process from buying to distribution to prevent wastage. it all comes from the tax payers hard earned money and not from the farmers pocket. the govt should get rid of the policy to procure more than what is required at increased MSP, this will bring efficiency in farming and also it will help keep the commodity prices at a reasoable level.
I dont think the farmers are underpriveledged any more. their kin drive around in suv’s flaunting latest gizmos. This is all a plank made popular by the congress to seek rural votes. If any help to any community is required it should be selective and to people who deserve the most.
In the recent farm loan waiver what the govt has done is they have waived the loans of farmers who had defaulted instead of rewarding the ones who were paying their dues duly.
Another thing that BJP should do is to oppose reservation in any form and provide equal oppertunities to all. we all know the motive behind these reservations. and when the supreme court introduced the creamy layer funda to keep non deserving students away from reservation, the creamy layer limit was lowered by the govt. this should not have been ignored as an election issue.
And for the future BJP should inculcate youth into politics. it is very clear now that represetatives who work for their constituences will only get re-elected. and to get the energy and passion into their ranks, youth should be given a chance at each level.
I am ready to work as a party worker and I am sure lots of other guys will also be. but we need a chance.
One more suggestion I’d like to give is that in all constiuences where BJP has won , there should a forum or a channel available online so that people can reach their representatives and vice versa. this will also help in increasing the exposure to youth.
I m sure there a lot of other issues that need to resolved but I have mentioned those that I feel strongly about.
1 Lets us look at the possibility of organising such meetings in small cities and towns. the very prsence of leaders with youth there will charge them. They shouls all have a say in local issues.Like functioning of MLa,MP even the other elected/selected members.
2 Our top leaders like Jaity(Hately) must learn to behave ,his drama over Shushil mittal was a high time.It will be better either he reforms him self else pave way for others.
3 FOBJP must look at how to help society. Can we not start some program where volounterrs will give some und and we will help in some ways ?
What should Friends Of BJP do?
Firstly, coin a new phrase ‘INCLUSIVE NATIONALISM’
Secondly, mobilise all the young karyakartas especially the ladies.
Thirdly, get the media on our side.
Fourthly,be clear about what we stand for. The message should be crisp & clear.
Fifth, start working for a victory at the next election from right now.
Friends of BJP could play an important role in providing feedback to BJP party at this critical time.
a) Convey the message to BJP that it has only lost 22 MP seats and that its support is definitely growing in the educated class. The good work being done by NDA leaders in states like MP, Gujarat, Karnataka, Bihar is being recognized and needs to be continued.
b) We need to let BJP know that it needs to shed its COMMUNAL IMAGE badly and quickly too. It needs to start objecting if and when anybody refers to it as a communal party and such accusations if not taken very seriously cause severe damage to the secular image of BJP.
c) Hardliner Hindutva stance does not seem to resonate well anymore. It is better for BJP to silently let the Hindutva issue fade into the background.
d) Appoint a few relatively young and dynamic people to public-facing positions in the party to avoid getting stereotyped as an OLDIES party.
e) Minorities like Muslims and Christians feel alienated from BJP and it is very important for BJP to quell this anti-minority perception. An inclusive stance needs to be explicitly made at an appropriate forum in order to start reaching out to these communities.
f) We need to let BJP know that it needs to desperately EXPAND its presence in states like AP and TN which together contribute 81 MP seats. It is never too late to expand at the grass roots level.
I also strongly believe that nothing is lost but a word of caution that it should not be the beginning of a future downfall.BJP does not have the advantage of having the support like Congress has,that is the support of Muslims who sincerely vote and vote for Congress in a determined fashion.There is no point making unsavory remarks against them or passing sarcastic or indecent remarks against Congress because this becomes an expression of frustrations.BJP has made many mistakes and some of them are blunders.India had a great man called Chanakya.We can take few leaves from his wisdom and shrewdness.I am planning to write an article on what went wrong and what can be done to reverse it.
Friends of BJP should help BJP do a real introspection, not the ones that they do after every elections. Last time they said that development plank doesn’t work. This time they say Modi, media and blah blah. They need to understand that talks alone can’t make you win. They should dissociate themselves completely with all the rouge elements like Ram Sene. Also, BJP now has the maximum number of criminals in its list of MP’s. Why are they allowing criminals to hijack the party? Dynastic politics isn’t as bad as criminalization of politics. We respect old people, they are good as advisors, but giving them executive roles may not be the best idea. BJP has now become a party of oldies. They should come up with an internal rule that no one beyond 60 will make a bid for PM and anyone leader will be allowed only one unsuccessful bid for the post of PM. After that, they should all take up the roles of elderly advisors.
For this time, BJP should take up the role of a constructive opposition and redefine the traditional meaning of opposition in Indian parliament. They should be ready to support the government on the right issues. All that a government says can’t always be wrong. Opposition for the sake of opposition makes no sense.
Grow Up BJP!
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g) BJP needs to have a TV news channel of its own or at least needs the backing of one. BJP also needs to publicly highlight the anti-BJP and pro-Congress media bias in some news media.
h) FoBJP meetings with leaders like Arun Jaitley and Arun Shourie need to be conducted frequently in places where BJP needs to expand to reach out to more people.
I think N Modi should now focus only to make Gujarat a best state and use that to the next election to show people of india what is the different between devlopement being done by BJP and congress, people will automaticaly realise that and move toward BJP, if now people using there sense more who to give votes than they need to look where Gujarat state is standing now.
@ V V Rajan - I completely agree with you.. u have put it well and our thoughts are completely synchronized as far as your analysis goes here.Just one comment..I still have doubts if it was really Rahul and Sonia magic that worked.Both don’t have any charisma at all..and I guess the votes in UP came more due to “OLD CONGRESS” and INDIRA GANDHI ..most of the old rural folk still thinks that Indira and Rajiv are alive. If it was really Rahul magic then it should have had worked in Bihar too… !?
and also agree with Praveen Sharma : Liberal hationalism is the way forward - This is the key guys and this is what BJP and we all stand for actually….
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Dhananjay May 18, 2009 5:32 AM
अगर पत्रकार ख़ुद को अफ़वाह फैलाने से बचाकर रखें तो बेहतर होगा. जनता को ही यह तय करने दें कि वह क्या चाहती है. आजकल मीडिया ने अपने विचार फैलाकर प्रजातंत्र का अपहरण कर लिया है. मीडिया सिर्फ़ सूचना देने का माध्यम हैं लेकिन आजकल यह तथाकथित धर्मनिरपेक्ष भी बना हुआ है. भाजपा ऐसे ही मीडिया की शिकार हुई है जो यह सोचते हैं कि भाजपा का विरोध करना ही मुख्यधारा का काम है. भाजपा ही ऐसी पार्टी है जो सिद्धांतों की लड़ाई लड़ रही है. अगर लोग आप पर हमला करने लगें तो ऐसे में सिद्धांत बदलना राजनीति में ठीक नहीं. दूसरे सभी दल हार जाने पर अपने मुद्दे बदल देते हैं. इसे सिद्धांत नहीं कहते.
we must encourage young telents now
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* सुहैल हलीम * 19 May 09, 01:36 PM
उफ़ ! तुम्हारे ये उसूल
चुनावी नतीजों ने भारत का राजनीतिक समीकरण कुछ इस तरह बदल दिया है कि जो लोग चुनाव से पहले कांग्रेस के ख़ून के प्यासे थे, अब बग़ैर माँगे ही उसे बिना शर्त समर्थन देने के लिए परेशान घूम रहे हैं.
उत्तर प्रदेश में बहुजन समाज पार्टी और समाजवादी पार्टी के बीच दौड़ इस बात की थी कि समर्थन का पत्र राष्ट्रपति तक पहले कौन पहुँचाए. उधर लालू प्रसाद यादव कह रहे हैं कि कांग्रेसी नेता उनकी बेइज़्ज़ती कर रहे हैं, लेकिन वो फिर भी संयुक्त प्रगतिशील गठबंधन का साथ देंगे.
और ये सब धर्मनिरपेक्ष शक्तियों को मज़बूत करने के लिए किया जा रहा है.
उफ़! तुम्हारे ये उसूल, ये आदर्श! सांप्रदायिक ताक़तों से ये नफ़रत, और कांग्रेस से निस्वार्थ प्रेम!
दिल चाहता है कि राष्ट्रपति को समर्थन का एक पत्र मैं भी दे आऊँ. फिर ख़्याल आता है कि मेरे ख़िलाफ़ तो सीबीआई भ्रष्टाचार के किसी मामले की तफ़्तीश नहीं कर रही, तो फिर ज़रूरत क्या है?
1. We should become grassroots workers for the BJP and help it in development work wherever it is in power…whether it is the State Assembly or the MCD. We should collaborate with State and constituency level BJP representatives to ensure good governance and development.
2. RSS has done great work for this country and its culture. But it has a very bad image among the youth. Part of this is justified. When someone attacks you, you have the right to retaliate in self defense. But we should urge the Sangh to spare people not directly involved in the violence. This creates a negative image for them despite the good work they do. Friends of BJP together with the BJP should take the responsibility of raising issues when Hindus are attacked/killed by a section of the minority in a big way. Even if it requires on the road protests we should pledge our support to them. I myself have been reading and finding out issues they are involved with and the problems they face. No one believes them but they are not always wrong. I think if we pledge our support to them, they will not have any need to retaliate in the way they sometimes do. This will not only help the BJP but also the Sangh itself. It can draw more people into its fold and revive secular Hindutva - a much maligned and misinterpreted ideology.This is very important to bring out the good face of the RSS. We can also become messengers of Hindutva. I myself have talked to people who hated the RSS, the BJP, their ideology and explained everything to them. They now admire this ideology…the only problem they have is with riots. I have tried to provide a solution…I hope it will be seriously considered.
friends of bjp should open their office in each and every town.so it will be easy for us to contact you and to make stratagies on developins our party….
For Freinds of BJP, I become emotional for their right intentions in election 2009. The forum must continue and BJP should appoint a senior-most level office-bearer to co-ordinate on day to day basis as a catalyst between party and this forum. This forum will revolutionise the future of India in 2014.If we not and if BJP not able to break the country from shackles of congress the future will not forgive us
Whosoever analysing this election in whatsoever method, for the common layman with average IQ there are certain obvious reasons of the victory of congress
1. Populist methods adopted for unaware part of electorate (read Muslim and Poor votebanks here and remember the famous BJP anger over congress for appeasement of Votebanks)
2.Excellent media management of cource with monetory cost by buying prime time on media channels to confuse aware electorate by planting very subtle anti BJP or anti Hindu type of thinking
3.Alienation of BJP from key states like Andhra, TN and WB by not building own organization there.BJP relied on third front players there to fight Congress And this precluded from projecting BJP a PAN Indian party
On all these fronts,FOBJP can supplement party in many ways.
1.By organizing political awareness programs in poor and backward areasin co-ordination with party coupled by services and to thus to enlighten and link the poor voters with party
2.Engage in other service extensions like assisting the people with right to information applications, follow-ups , bringing cases of corruptions at various forums
3.Engage actively with BJP to launch standard and professional news channels Regional, Hindi and English
4.Providing ideasm ground level informations and thought inputs to the party and seeking its logical conclusion
The Congress could win these elections due to feel good factor prevailing on account of global booming conditions in most part of its last regime. The party could afford corruption and populist measures due to these booming conditions. The things have now reversed and next 5 years will be great problem for the corrupt leadership of congress and so BJP can look ahead for win in next elections
So for our Rashtra Dharma and Samaj Dharma(Inherent duty towards nation and society) we have to show the world
So let us start from now on
Thanks and best wishes
1. Please bring the BJP members like Sushma Swaraj in front of media who has strong Mass Appeal…
2. Also motivate youth like us to Join BJP
3. Take intiative by providing various policies to government in advance (May be in parliament or by using media).. this will give possitive message about BJP that we are keen to develop india….
4. Please take care that who are good in board room politics should be not interact with media & only those who has mas appeal should come on TV screen….
Thanks & Regards
Rupesh Jain
muslim and minority people needs in bjp. So work for muslim and minority voters.this responsibility give to Varun. because varun grandfather also a muslim name Feroze khan. And also creat a young team seprately boys and girls age between 15-18,18-21,21-25,25-30,30-35,in national level,state level district level.minimum target of 1 crore young members in bjp.and monthly meeting in district level. qwartly meeting in state level,and national level meeting also.
Dear friends,
Let me first congratulate the team of “Friends of BJP” for starting such a nice organisation. Being a member I am really happy the way team worked till D day. I have personally attended the Pune’s meeting.
The results have once again given a chance to BJP to work hard, expand its base, go to the masses. I dont know what went wrong. Even the issues raised were correct. Like, farmers suicide in Vidarbha, Attack in Mumbai, internal security, good governence etc.
somebody has correctly pointed out that we need a good media support. And that can be done through launching a news channel on our own. We will have to concentrate on the coming state elections.
I take this opportunity and want ask all my friends here that “Do you feel BJP will do better on its own without any help from its current allies??? If party do so, will it come out in 2014 on its own…
Friends we have 5 (FIVE) years. WE have the power. We can ideas.. We can change anything…
Remember these lines:-
“Faisala abhi hua nahi hai,
Bhala mai kynu apani haar manu,
Jag abhi jeeta nahi hai…,
Mai abhi haaraa nahi hoon!!!!!! ”
with all the best wishes… Jai Shri Ram!!!
think friendsof bjp should also reconsider the fact that IT revolution is yet to pick up in India at its peak and that is why I wrote many times be simple and aggressive. If you do not know then plz confirm that Rahul had lot of discussions on IT campaign, before elections but ultimately their decision was negative,because they knew the right way to attract the people of India . You tried to convince those peole for good governance, who do not even understand what is good governance.You are equally responsible for the defeat and I dare say You deserved even worst, say thanks to God you are saved.
PLEASE CLARIFY IF I AM WRONG, I THINK YOU HAVE DONE MAXIMUM EVENTS IN DELHI AND MUMBAI AND COULD YOU GET EVEN A SINGLE SEAT FROM THEIR? CLICKNEWSNET JUST DID ONE PROGRAMME IN FEROZEPUR AND WON THE SEAT FROM THE MOST FAVOURITE LEADER AFTER CAPTAIN’S FAMILY IN PUNJAB, WITH A MARGIN OF MORE THAN 30,0000 VOTES. THE MOST SURPRISING THING IS OUR CANDIDATE IS UNDER MATRIC, AND JAGMEET BRAR OF CONGRESS WAS FAVORITE TO GET MINISTRY IN CENTER.
I remember one incident about the discipline in people of BJP, when in Jalandhar there was a programme of friends of bjp I asked my colleagues that no body should enter without registration and ID issued to them not even Mr. Jaitily and I arranged Media on the spot to click the sceen of signing Mr. Jaitily, because as a Journalist I think I know better than mnany that how the message should be delivered. If the local leaders and Minister manoranjan kalia had not made the mess then it would have made the double of the authenticity of friends of BJP that their work is for good governance. The friends of BJP was managed by people who tried to do jobs like leaders not like the friends. The greed to sit with the leaders on the stage, and just talking about good governance to the people who do not even know the meaning of good governance failed to attract punjabies. The greed of command was so high that you refused me to invite the best IT campaigner of BJP Senthil Raja.
. I do not know if Mr. Jhun Jhun wala who represented friends of BJP in Punjab knows Punjabi, so hard to understand why somebody from local area given the chance to introduce the concept . This suggest only that he was so keen to share the stage with leaders, and I was alone handling the press who were annoyed with the attitude of leaders. The whole press asked me if the leaders are not answering us now then what will they do if they win. Myself was there to explain the people about your concept and everybody else including Mr. Jhun Jhun wala were busy in lunch with Mr. Jaitily. I do not understand whether he was to have lunch over there or to convince people for good governance. I am thankful only to my friend C.A Mr. Vikram Arora who helped me beyond my expectations.
I now tell the worst position of IT campaign in Punjab that I was given an Internet to use which had probably the lowest Internet speed of the world.
PLEASE DO MIND IT, BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH AND ALSO TRY TO FINISH MY IMAGE BEFORE THE LEADERS OF BJP, AT LEAST DO SOME MORE DESTRUCTION IF FAILED IN CONSTRUCTIVE WORK. YOU SHARED ENOUGH COMMAND WITH THE LEADERS, NOW SHARE RESPONSIBILTY.
MR. SENTHIL IS STILL WORKING VERY HARD, TRYING TO EXPOSE THE TEMPERING EVMs
SORRY IT IS WHY NOT GIVEN CHANCE TO LOCAL PERSON
I think, we need to look deep and understand the voter’s psyche. I would suggest to prepare some kind of questionnaire and ask the local BJP workers to collect data across the country from the general public as why they voted for congress and why they did not vote for BJP. I think this would give a better picture as how to approach in the next general election. Its going to be a long process but it will be beneficial. Second suggestion would be to project young and dynamic BJP leaders more to the public. Give them more exposure in the media and in the party, this would surely have some effect on the young voters. Believe it or not, I think one of the reason Congress got so many seats in UP and other states because they projected Rahul Gandhi as the prospect PM. Last but not the least, try to shed the hardcore Hindutva image. I am not saying dont speak for the Hindu rigts, but talk more on the INDIANS’ right.
PS: Young voters are in majority, so our effort should be to attract them.
All my BJP followers and Workers pls. take my opinion very lightly and forward it to all over India.
I have in my opinion, we have to work together henceforth to revive our party in such a strong position that in near future, all elections we should win with thumping majority. for this, I have my suggetion as follows.
1. Try to select candidate from local costituancy.
2. Take stock of candidate well in advance rathar then at the end or announcing election.
3.Please make sure that, candidate should not be repeated more than 2 times.
4.Local bodies should be given work in such a way that, they should have weekly, monthly and yearly people to people contact.
5.Pls.check development work in Urban and Rural and take modle of Gujarat.
6.Pls. avoid to give tickets to celebrity and glamour people which they prove liabilities to Party.
7.Pls. induct more and more learned people in to party which will good image to the party.
8.Avoid giving ticket to criminals.
9.Work for party and avoid infightling within party.
10.Avoid admiting any person from other party.
11.Give more tickets to female members.
12.Stop critising individuals of other,s party rather that critise opposite party.
I, Paresh Vora is always available for BJP( Badi Jandar Party) and my cell No.09820634311.
I DO AGREE WITH PARESH VORA VIEW. YOU CAN CONTACT ME ON MY PHONE NO 9821407430 . I WILL BREIF YOU THE REASON FOR OUR DEFEAT
Friends of BJP dont feel disheartened continue the good work. Let 2014 be the target.
My thoughts on the election.
- The mandate to BJP is clear that it should work as a constructive opposition. The voters seem to be in favour of National parties marginalising the blackmailers.
- To start with BJP can either vote in favour of the Confidence motion or abstain instead of voting against the motion. This will generate goodwill and also prevent the smaller parties from blackmailing.
- Nation should come before everything else any positive policy should whole heartedly be supported if it is good for the country.
- Should not resort to holding up the proceedings, hungama. Proper protest without wasting the nations time and money, only should be resorted to. Be a model opposition.
- Negative campaigning should have been avoided. Mr. Advani should have stuck only to positive issues and avoided directly taking on the PM.
- Controversial issues should be put on the back burner and development issues should have been the main plank.
- BJP got sidetracked by non issues raised by media and tied itself into knots trying to explain these issues, thereby falling into the trap. BJP should have set the agenda and avoided non issues..
- Cong made issues like withdrawal of Red corner alerts, bringing in black money stashed away in Swiss Banks, Anti Sikh riots into non issues.
- It appears that the urban electorate has deserted BJP. Efforts should be made to capture the imagination of this category.
- BJP ruled states should act like model states and invest heavily on education, infrastructure (roads, bridges, piped water supply, underground drainage, etc), and healthcare. Should be synonymous with Good governance.
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- BJP had to sustain a hostile campaign against it by the media. It should strategise to counter , neutralise / reduce hostility. Media handling should be done by professionals, who can bve employed by the party.
- Boycott hostile hosts/ channels.
- BJP should promote its own channel / Newspapers run by professionals minus the hostility and bias.
- Should consciously develop youth and media savvy persons to handle media. A select band of 50 to 100 people should undergo intensive sessions on media handling and PR. Sessions to be handled by both Indian and Foreign experts. The representative in the debates on the media, seminar etc should present the young face of BJP.
- BJP should cultivate interest groups, intellectuals, NGOs to take such issues through the Court, RTI, articles, letters to editors, seminars, internet etc. These interest groups can keep these campaigns alive throughout without these things having to surface only at the time of elections.
- Should cultivate Journalists, who can present the party’s point of view.
- BJP should take part in all Bye elections (both for assembly and Parliament) especially in states like Kerala, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal Andhra where the party is weak by fielding a National level leader or a sitting MPs ( People like Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley, Sidhu, Rudy etc). Even if they lose it does not matter as this will enable the party to get visibility, galvanise the cadres and develop a Base in those states. Party can draw upon its cadres from other states for these bye elections and run a focussed campaign, which otherwise would not be possible during the general elections.
- The party should work with 2014 in mind. Senior leaders should go into Rajya Sabha and a majority of the seats should be given to younger candidates thereby passing on the baton to the next generation.
- The party should expand its base. Should be broad based across all regions, religion, caste, class etc.
What Next : Solution is here
“BJP has to put the right seed now and the crop will be ready by next 10 years”. No short cut.
1. Blunt truth that urban society look for a strong educated leader with a VISION. We needed BJP leadership by a leader like Arun Jaitley instead of Advani or Rajnath or Modi. I hope its not a government department where the promotion is given on the basis of seniority.
2. Where BJP is creating its manpower? I dont see young educated professionals. That means no home work before the exams? Now a days quality matters instead of quantity. So Right seed is required here.
3. Where is the training program for its manpower? You have to have a professional approch in whatever you do. Learn from the enemy to succeed. This is the part where you put time to grow your seed into a plant. Carefully ofcourse.
4. No short cut for success. Using internet, media, sms etc. does not do anything unless you have some weight in what you say. Dont just do formality and time pass. Means you should be very much clear about your strategy, friendly ideology and your stand. First, you should clearly understand what the public want instead of what you want. Better you do a public survey. After that plan the whole strategy and ideology. Take lot of time to make it and keep no place for confusion. Once ready ACT on it. Propagate it by all means of communication. Success will be at your doorstep. Now your crop is ready -:)
EGO=0
Advice : Even if there is some conflict among the party members (natural to have such incidents because of difference of opinion); the resentment should not come out. Better close the chapter in a closed room. Enemy will always take the advantage of such acts. If publicized, enemy will gain and you will loose.
Regards
Manoj Sharma
There is a reason for so much of mourning and jumping to EVM fraud type conclusions. The way the election results look like is a perfect orchestration of “removal of all troubles and ills of INC” in one shot from the past. Though INC did win only 206 and not win 543 they blanked out their enemies 543-0.
It seems like that in their calculations, BJP was never in the contention for them and hence no worries there. Here is how it looks like and it is amazing to achieve all in one shot. Even though it is election but it looks like a programmed thing for me to get me out of all troubles.
1) Salami slice BJP in its area of influence so that it does not rise it head. Guj, MP, Uttarakhand
2) Let us not do anything with Karnataka as we think we will look suspicious. But Dev Gowda - the damn guy should be put in is place and how dare he cheats us.
3) AP - We got to win here but I don’t think YSR whould have a large majority. Chiru should not grow. Ok fine- let us give huge LS majority and but 10 seater to YSR. Damn guy let him live there. CBN can sulk in the opposition for a while. Again this damn TRS how dare he crossed my line. Let us finish him.
4) Left - These jokers tried to convert Nuke deal as Muslim Vs. Non-Muslim. These folks needs rape and murder and hence let us order the robots to do exactly the same
5) Laloo, Paswan - Let us flush them like a lavatory-tissues
6) Naveen and Nitish - let us leave them in good humor and may be useful in future.
7) AGP - Let BJP win here but not AGP. AUDF - the two bit party that sole depends on BDs is good thing for future. Ok done deal so let us add them
8 ) ADMK -PMK - MDMK - big nuisance and how dare they talk of Elam etc. Let us see if we can do such a way so that we don’t have to work with toooo many *MKs but just with one who is anyway. Jaya is looking like BJP-B anyway. Let us do only salami slicing here so that we don’t look suspicious.
9) Delhi and Rajasthan - forget about voting percentages etc. - let us just sweep because we won the assembly recently.
10) JMM is a huge pain and hence lets dump it.
11) By the way for all these parties, let us give one seat each so that we do not look like we did something
12) SP - BSP: Damn black mailers - Let us make them as irrelevant and dependent on us from tommorow but be cautious. We should not go from zero to 80.
13) Over all we don’t win 300 seats on our own but we have 300 with about 100 of them has no option but us.
14) pawar- bloody fellow wants PM ship. Show him his place while we win.
Make Singh the King!!! It is infinite number of master strokes and a beautifullest victory that anyone can dream/cherish.
My dear friends,
I know we are all disappointed with the results but we should not lose hope. BJP had just two seats not long back ago. This is a huge improvement.There are lot of local factors which made party lose its vote share (I don’t think they lost vote share much). Following are the steps I think BJP should do to revitalize the party.
1.Since we already have strong network, we should all focus on long term goals. Since all other faiths have string philanthropic background, we should be like them. There are so many Hindus who are poor and uneducated. Like Christians contribute significant of their earnings to charities and religion, we should do that. We should support charities which provide education, health and development. Otherwise, these people fall in the trap of organizations which convert people.This automatically unites all Hindus. Best examples are work done by Sewa Bharati and Eklavya NGOs in tribal areas of Chattisgadh and Jharkand.
2. In each state, BJP should identify dominant caste and make people from that caste BJP state leaders. Again, best example is Karnataka.
3.BJP needs to be inclusive. I am surprised that the party did not give enough seats to Muslims and Christians. BJP state governments should be a role models in this regard.
2. Honestly, what did BJP do to Hindus? Did it bring any reforms to get rid of factors which are making Hindu religion suffer. Like every minority religion has their religion development boards. Why can not BJP ruled states do this? Hindu temple donations and money should go to only Hindu religion development like any other religion contributions. They should not go to state governments and should not be under state boards.If you look at Tirupathi temple, all this money goes to state government. All this money can be used to Hindu religion related charities.
3.BJP state governments should do welfare programs aggressively. What people want is 2 kg rice, color tvs and money transfers. They don’t care Afjal guru hanging. Best example is AP government where there is so much corruption but few welfare programs helped the state. Chattisgarh and Tamilnadu also fall in this category
4.RSS and related organizations start welfare programs and start collecting money for Hindu development activities. We should not create hatred and unite people with love.
5.BJP should aggressively build vote banks-such as SCs and STs. They should be brought into main stream. I see so many Dalits not allowed to enter temples and I never see any BJP leader talking about that. They should not be blamed if they are attracted by other faiths.
6.RSS and its organizations should do everything to promote Hindu religion growth in a peaceful way.
7. Last but not least, BJP should have its own media. All the existing media companies are anti-bjp. Whatever Rahul does is a great thing for them but whatever Arun Jaitley does is wrong.
Let us not lose hope and work towards Hindu religion growth and nation development. After all our religion respects all faiths and we believe that there are many paths to reach the god and ours is one way.
I would like to inform that where they have to change the key personnel,they have to find out what did they made commitment to the people where they won and where they lost also solve the problem in a smooth manner and dont disclose to any other party try to pull Mr.Lalu from Congress.
I know to cover the Congress mistakes they made a Big drama with Mr.Karunanidhi CM of Tamil Nadu.During the Congress rule also going to rule for another 5 yrs tenture they can’t make any changes and the people would realise why we elected the Congress its better we can choose BJP
Dear Freind,
Yes we are very much diappointed with the result of this election, but if we go in deep the entire mistake is our, As the old version of BJP is not there, the grass route worker are not keen to work for BJP as he not any ware, first of all the top leader of BJP think about the re-organisation of the Party,they have to re-organise local samiti,Mandal,Zila, and State, they give cleare ihnstruction to samiti presidet to be in tuch with local people and try to solve there problems so that people can know what is the BJP. I rember previously all the Samiti members are take the proper interest to solve the problem of the people either way, water problem,electricity problem,sewege problem or at any given time they are ready for people. But when BJP Comes in power the small samity president think that they are the whole sole leader and not listining to the general people and grass route worker go away from the BJP and keep mum, even then they are not taking interest to cast the vote, because they are committed with the BJP the % of voting goes less and we are not come up to the mark. General people do not want the Ram mandir, they want good and fearless peacefull living. AAz Phir Ek Bar Atam Manthan Ki Jaroorat Hai, Sab Ko Roti, Rozgar Aur Shanti Chahiye, Agar hum yeh sub kar sakte hai to wo din door nahi jab Ek bar phir Bhara Ayaigi
First Shed the Image of communal party from it.
second, expose communalism done by other parties. ( like amount got by temples are not used for welfare of Hindu Religion instead it is diverted to making roads and no other religious money is used for such purpose.)
Create young leaders in all constituencies.
forget about ayodhya! it will happen. no need to woo voters with it ( as u must have understood by now, it just doesnt work!
Dear Friends BJP
I would request all the friends to gather the contact no and mail ID of Friends of BJP and pass on to each other so as to communicate and to work in Group.
Communication will please us be together and work collectively
Nilesh Memane (Pune)
Contact no- 9922913484
Please contact to work together !
dear friends,election is over now UPA will form the government.bjp has slightly lost percentage of votes.bjp lost this election beacause low percentage of polling.minorty`s never voted to bjp since jansangh time.all bjp winning seats come from purely hindu votes.
if voting percentage is higher bjp definately win the seat with good margin ex;mangalore and udupi loksabha seats.now the time has come for every bjp members and symhatisers visit each and every hindu house educate them about voting rights.
election commision has done very bad to our democracy .america is the democrtic country but election time they are using banners and flags .
raghavendra
every one says to reach out to the youth and urban middle class and yes thats right but how?
one thing I have noticed from the people( youth and middle class ), they easily fall prey for the media propaganda. These people listen and strongly believe the ELM intellectuals to high. But the very fact is the media in India is like monopolized and they all hate BJP for their own good. So whatever messages from BJP reaches to the people in negative manner.
I strongly believe, BJP should define a strategy to raise high and counter the ELM or go with them and try to be respected by them. I feel the later is is very difficult unless the congis distances themselves from ELM. Mainly BJP should find a way to spread their very message to reach the people as it is instead of a negative tag added to it. The message should be precise and clear to ordinary people, not just to the educated. The adds in internet should always posses eye catching message and pointing to intersting article in BJP site, not just regular same add simply pointing to one of the BJP site.
DEFEAT SHOULD MAKE US STRONGER
“PHIR SUBAH HOGI”
how to strong bjp in all over india .now start meet to worker, and worker meeting in district level,state level by national level leader.under one roof every worker define the facing probleme etc. now focus on assembelly election in haryana2010.we wants bjp govt in haryana. so focus on haryana now. because in haryana electricy main problem.In ambala cantt and ambala city registery ‘ll be closed since last three year . In haryana no major industry. 09215246612
Leave this forum who can not be a friend when friend is in need and start learning to live with Italian rule.
from Vivek Deo
May 19 (1 day ago)
to webmaster@bjp.org
date May 19, 2009 10:37 PM
subject suggestions abt website
mailed-by gmail.com
hello,
some observations/ suggestions…
BJP official website should not be in black colour…
white background and saffron coloured lettering should be used…
there should be
- a hindi version website also…pdf files should be used to avoid font problems…
- a page for loksabha, rajyasabha and the names of members of the party who had been the members of the parliament, till now..
- a page for each state in the country, and the party’s role in that particular state’s government…
- still photographs / audio - video archive of gloriuos moments in the history of the party…
- a mention about the procedure of becoming member of the party…
- a country profile of India…
-a mention about freedom struggle and the freedom fighters…
thanks…
vivek deo.
BJP should start a national TV and RADIO channel on its own, to promote its real image.
BJP should start a FAQ section on its website, where all misconceptions about BJP in the minds of common man can be addressed in detail.
BJP should have at least one and maximum five direct marketing vans for every state, that keep on going to every nook and corner of the state, to promote its cause. This should be done 24 x 7 x 365, till BJP and KAMAL has gained brand equity in the minds of rural / uneducated electorate.
The process must continue…Friends of BJP should be a perennial process and should not stop at any cost, come what might…BJP has all the ingredients to lead the nation and it would do in the coming elections for sure…Keep up the good work!!
WHY WE LOST AND WHAT SHOULD BE DONE
BJPs campaign was by far the best won. It was right in attacking stooge corrupt Manmohan. Yet we lost.
Why? Congress bribed the westernised tv channels
to promote Sonia, Priyanka and Manmohan as epitome of decency and integrity. Pro Congress panelists
surrounded by pappu youths slaughtered BJP spokespersons. Congress planted vote katuvas like
Chiranjeevi and Raj etc. Thanks to Naveen Chawla,
EVMs were manipulated(especially in tamilnadu),no
action was taken against Azhagiri(Madurai) who
openly distributed wads of 500rupee notes along with party symbol.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE????
1. BJP should return to Hindutva plank vigorously.
It ia shameful that a measely 15 percent of muslims and christians should enslave majority Hindus.
2. BJP cadres should do PR work in major temples
across the nation. Sponsor matha jagrans and other
hindu festivals. Religion is the only vibrant force that can unite Hindoos who are otherwise
divided on caste and creed etc.Once you create a
hindu social revival, it will automatically turn
into votes for BJP.
3. Will Arun Jaitley, Swapan Dasgupta, Kulkarni
etc please totally ban NDTV,CNNIBN, TimesNow and
Headlines Today? Let them spin stories about
Priyankas sarees or Rahuls kurtha etc.
4. Bring Varun and Narendra Bhai to centre stage.
If you dilute hindutva agenda then you would end
up as a poor copy of Congress.
5. Enlist support from pro Hindu corporates and
start your own TV channel in vernacular languages
targeting rural youths. Stop patronising urban
youths, their psyche is hijacked by tv serials and missionary controlled tv networks. I actually heard one young woman saying..quote..Rahu is cho
chweet..I voted for Congress. quote ends.
6. Highlighting issues dont make any impact as this election has proved. Instead demand for good
old paper ballot system. You can never beat Congress and DMK in EVM manipulation.
7. Engage trustworthy secret service agents to
monitor the activities, source of funds of pro
Congress tv channels.
8. Bring all hindu organisations like VHP, Bajrang
Dal under one umbrella.
9. BJP sponsored samaj kalyan missions like providing psychological and financial aids to
victims of many bomb blasts. Involve Sri Sri Ravishankar and Baba Ramdeo.
10. Organise committed Hindu cadres who can launch
attacks on anti-Hindu tv channels. They should be
smart enough to escape without leaving any clue.
11. Friends of BJP would witness many more lost elections if they think of countering Congress
only by democratic means. Remember the martyrdom
of countless revolutionaries against the British
regime.
12. The britishers left leaving a cancer called
Congress to eat into the vitals of Bharat Matha.
13. Be a proud Hindu..revive BJP in whatever way
you can.
Jai Hind. Vandematharam.
Valli
You ask what can the Friends of BJP do?
And my question is:
1.What are the organizational capabilities of the Friends of the BJP, besides expressing opinions in posts on a web site, were only 5 percent of people in India have internet connection.
2. Does the Friends of BJP have channels of communication open with the BJP leadership and organization and are they interested in engaging and listening to what constructive feed back.
Those would need to be addressed to have any room for taking any constructive action.
Its really a matter of concern for the BJP.
There are few things which has contributed to the failure of BJP.
1)Local Leaders must be mobilized for action and campaigning. Merely campaigning by Mr.Modi or Advaniji will not help.e.g I have never heard or my friends didnt heard of our local candidate of BJP from Valsad.
2)BJP has to leverage its performance in the current ruling states making a gujarat model and following the path.
3) Young Leaders are the need of the hour as its quite obvious that BJP lacks youth support.
4) Friends of BJP should have the privilege to communicate with BJP leaders and express their opinion or participte in their work.
5)BJP now should refrain from communal speeches which misleads people.
6) Nation growth and development should be the frontline alongwith the Hindutva Agenda.
7) Mass education about Hindutva and educate people about its awareness, ideology and the idea of coinciding HIndutva with NAtionalism.
Dear Friends,
What we sorely missed was a TV Channel to air our views; without a channel we are unable to counter our opponents false propagandas. BJP kindly take the initiative, we’ll wholeheartedly make contributions and support.
1. Build expert committees from all domains that affect our lives.Probe every action and inaction of governance and highlight with all responsibility that the issue deserves. Work as watchdogs and point out all mismanagement and corruption issues through all possible means including taking up in forums and legal recourse.
Wherever BJP is in power these committees need to mainatain contact with state CM’s and other heads.
BJP ruled states must lead by example and not worry the word- ‘Incumbancy’.
2. Each state unit needs to establish continual reach and contact with every town and village and this data must be maintained and updated. Mere urban contact would not be able to serve Bharat.
3. Discipline and honesty is absolutely necessary and needs be strictly adhered even if it costs a few rats to run away at onset.There is no place for arrogance in serving a cause, strengths are required to be built on character and ethics.
Sikhs getting slaughered in thousands = A MISTAKE.
Hindus getting killed in Kashmir = Political problem.
Muslims getting killed by a few hundred = Holocaust.
Poor protestors getting shot in WB under Left Govt = Misunderstanding.
Kargil Attack = Government failure.
Chinese invasion in 1962 = Unfortunate betrayal.
Reservations in every school and college on caste lines = Secular.
Reservations in Minority institutions = Communal.
Fake encounters in Gujarat [Sohrabuddin] = BJP Communalism.
Fake encounters under Cong-NCP in Maharashtra [Khwaja Younus] = Police atrocity.
Talking about Hindus and Hinduism appeasement = Communal.
Talking about Muslims and Islam = Secular.
BJP freeing 3 terrorists to save 100 Indian hostages = Shameful
Congress freeing 4 militants to save just a life of one daughter of I Home minister in Kashmir [Rubina Sayed] = Natural Political dilemma.
Attack on Parliament = BJP ineptitude.
Not hanging Afzal Guru the mastermind despite Supreme Court orders = Humanity and Political dilemma.
BJP questioning Islam = Communal.
Congress questioning Lord Rama’s existence = Clerical Error.
DEAR BJP FAMILY MEMBERS, BJP IS IN EXISTENCE BECAUSE OF HINDUTHVA,WHY WE MUST CONCENTRATE ON MUSLIMS AND CHRISTANS VOTES? HNDUS AWAYS RESPECT ALL RELEGIONS, WE MUST SHOW THIS IN PRACTICALLY.SO THAT ALL HINDUS WILL BE UNITED.1)PARTY PRESIDENT[NATIONAL,STATE,DISTRICT,URBAN AND RURAL] MUST MAKE THAT ALL ELECTED PERSONS DO THERE DUTY PROPERLY.2) ALL PRESIDENTS MUST BE FOLLOWERS OF RSS WITHOUT ANY COMPROMISE.3)ABVP MUST BE STRENGTHN.4)LEADERS FOR ABVP MUST ALSO BE THE FOLLOWERS OF RSS.5)WE MUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE VALU OF VOTE.6)PARTY PRESIDENTS MUST HAVE TALK WITH MEMBERS, WORKERS AND FANS REGULARLY.7)WE MUST NOT BE OVER CONFIDENT.8)WE MUST MAKE ONE WING OF RETIRED EMPLOYEES(PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR)9)THE SMS SERVICE OF FRIENDS 4BJP MUST NOT BE STOPED.
I have seen a lot of comments in this site varying from going stronglly pro-hindutva to flushing it away.
I will start it simple 5 points which you can start with.
1) Let Varun Apoligise to BJP and Nation. Let him tell “if i am responsible for this loss of BJP, I solemnly apologise to all who posed faith in me including my mother, to the nation and above all Advaniji”
It should create a favorable opinion of him, instead of the current liar/anti-Muslim-Sikh/irresoponsible person.
Try this, it will also help him to build his career and stop the tu tu main main in the BJP.
2)Pick a strong young MP who can speak well in the parliament during the presidential address debate or immediately there,
Contents– let him tell the nation what it has lost by not electing Advani may be the Brutus type speech. Let the nation know BJP accepets with humility the verdict but at the same time hurt. BJP has strongest national interests and it cannot be questions by all the Left and Congress team
3) If BSP can put a candidate in all seats, why can’t BJP. Rethink find leaders with the passion to win or do something(like Yeduriyappa/Modi/Uma). Ensure in the next MLA elections we have atleast few acceptable seats in TN/Kerala/WB
4) Go back and look which part of the society you have no or credible representation from, strengthen this. This is not reservation, this is democracy and you require the numbers to win. People vote for strong leaders and when you cant have so many around, they will vote for some alignment caste/religion/cause/expectation ex Mayawati/Owasis/Jaswant/Rahul. It is not possible to have all leaders as tall ones so some identification is required.
5) I have written on this, BJP go back into closed door meeting and fight out your ego’s. Have a broader perspective as what needs to be done for the country through this great party
if you have read till this, i assume you saw some interest in the article either for or not. i dont mind if you reply saying this is not right thank you
start your own news channel if you want to have a chance in future.
how many of all these net savvy voted in this heat.
FOB should fight these through mahesh jethmalani.
1. law which allows a muslims with ten children to stand in panchyat elections its like shariat law in india.
2.any law or scheme brought by this gov baised towards muslims on religious grounds.
Will Mr. Jaitley, can ever find just 2 small minutes to call me……..I’m just.dying to plunge into politics….to help BJP back….if I don’t get a call soon, I can assume there is no point in further believing in BJP ideology……it has already failed me……9936108857
1) Particullar in Gujarat who lost thr seats is because of dissatisfaction among in party people. So first of party should work with trust.
ab ho gaya so ho gaya. Ab kuch aisa kar dikhaenge ki log dekhte hi reh jae. or BJP ki shaan badhe.
Aur apne Rajkot (Gujrat) se party k liye kuch karna chahta hu. 9879817779
dear bjp friends,in my opinion bjp lost its seat beacause of minority`s vote.bjp gets maximum votes from hindus.other party`s belive in minority
votes.this time actual looser is tdp party in andhra pradesh,jayalalitha from t.n .these two party leaders thinking is distance from bjp.
actual thing is, if these party`s associated with bjp peoples of andhra and tamilnadu definately voted them to lokasabha.
now a days public hating 3rd front and 4th front so they voted against tdp and aidmk.suppose if these party`s asssociated with bjp definately voted them beacause of nda
Mr. Dubey & Mr. Kashyap, it is not possible for leaders to call followers on cell. If you think you can really make it, then here are better ways to do it rather than waiting for leaders to call. I appreciate your courage, and I believe you can make it but for that you need to start from ground and get in touch with local BJP office.
FOB should explore towns nd cities in Maharastra as elections are coming. we should experiment in getting new members of young age.
Then focus on UP for 2011.
- BJP TALENT HUNT PROGRAM FOR BJP SUPPORTERS WHO ARE NOT REGULAR RSS SHAKHA MEMBERS -
Perodicty - once every year (initially)
Duration - Maximum one week
Location - Every RSS Shakha
Eligibility Criteria -
- a short objective questionnaire containing questions about history of pre Indedpendence India, post Indedpendence India,
history of RSS, history of BJP, Indian constitution, Indian Administrative system, Indian geography etc.
- minimum 18 years of age
- no criminal background
Selection
- At least 50% marks for correctly answering the questionnaire
- personal interview with local BJP president
Selected Candidates to hold meetings every month to discuss and deliberate various issues. Meeting to be voice recorded and forwarded to BJP office beares.
Objective
- to unite PRO BJP thinking citizens,
- to asimilate more viewpoints to a certain issue,
- to have wider social interaction by BJP office bearers,
- to find fresh talent for political career with BJP etc.
TODAY SAW ZEE NEWS SHOWING THE SELECTED CANDIDATES OF TALENT HUNT PROGRAM CONDUCTED BY RAHUL GANDHI IN U.P.
time to wake up bjp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why isn’t BJP competiting with Rahul and roping in the brilliant people out there who are willing to help it ?.