Is Idiotbox the Solution?

by Amit Malviya

“If there is electricity, people will watch TV late into the night and fall asleep. They won’t get a chance to produce children” - Ghulam Nabi Azad, Union Health Minister

This is a statement made by the honourable Health Minister on the World Population Day. He also suggested that women should marry at the age of 29 to 30 in order to control population growth in the country. Both these statements reflect a poor understanding of the challenge at hand and worse the Minister’s appreciation of the social order in the country. In the ensuing paragraphs, I will highlight specific instances to bring out the enormity of task at hand (population control) and what the Health Ministries’ priorities should be.

A not so distant relative of mine in my native village had eleven children. Only ten survived. It was strange that at one point of time the mother and daughter were both expecting. Let me clarify - they were educated, well to do and also had television ! She was in fact a teacher in the village school and eventually retired as the principal. So why did they have so many children ? Their desire to have a male child kept them in pursuit and it was their destiny that they had to wait this long. This is not an isolated instance. Eleven is an exceptionally big number but it is not unusual for people to have four to five children only because they are looking for a family heir. The solution is to educate the people and drive home the point that it does not matter if it is a boy or girl because in this changing social order both have equal opportunities. There was a time when such social messages were broadcasted with regularity but one does not see them too often now. Is it because a lot of people have moved away from Doordarshan and Government cannot spend enough on advertising on private channels.

On my last trip to UP, I happened to meet a health worker. She was working for the State Government and was responsible for a few villages. She had just returned from one such visit and started narrating how this woman she just met was pregnant for the fifth time. The Government apparently gives meager sum of money for the first two deliveries, which gets shared between the village Sarpanch (apparently for recommending the name and completing the paper work) and the family. It is understandable that the financial support would prompt people to have two children, but why more especially if they can’t provide for them. The health worker explained that most of the time women can’t refuse the men who are not employed through out the year, are invariably alcoholics and usually have a lot of time on hand. They can’t even suggest, let alone enforce use of contraceptive. The result is babies and more babies ! The situation is grim when it comes to Muslims who are seized with the belief that use of contraceptive is against their religion.

Equality and empowerment of women thus becomes very important. It is equally critical to educate the men and perhaps incentivize them financially for not having more than two children. Can we consider a legislation that than anyone having more than two children will not be entitled to benefits from the State ?

Let this not look like a problem of the villages alone. There are several cases of unwanted pregnancies as a result of indiscriminate sex in urban slums too. The reasons are same - lack of education, employment and empowerment of women. It is quite evident that the relatively progressive states of South have a relatively lower rate of population growth. It is also no surprise that they are more literate and their women enjoy better standing in the society.

Lack of electricity and television was never a reason in any of these instances !

I also can’t quite understand how the Minister thinks it is possible for women to push up the marriage age to 29/30 when the country is seized with social customs encouraging child marriages ! Even in urban areas, well educated families want to see their daughters settled latest by 26/27. Isn’t it ironical that a country where State Governments return to power on successful programs like “Kanyadan Yojana”, the Health Minister is suggesting something which will result in unprecedented social chaos.

As always the Ministry has not talked about “How to?” implement the suggestions. Merely hoping that miracle will happen and the situation will be addressed is not good enough. I hope that the Health Minister will move on from the frivolous statements and focus on delivering basic healthcare facilities to the vast uncovered population. We cannot afford him fret away precious time like his predecessor who was busy fighting turf war with the Director of AIIMS !

Comments

41 Responses to “Is Idiotbox the Solution?”

  1. Ramu Bhai on July 23rd, 2009 7:06 am

    Let them talk about such things we should smile and keep on doing what we have thought to do.

    He has given his views

  2. shweta on July 23rd, 2009 1:21 pm

    who all come under obc category? where can we obtain a list of the same? i know its not related. but too much politics is being played here. who are these castes under obc? does it cut accross religion? can somebody write an article on it?

  3. skg on July 23rd, 2009 11:15 pm

    OBC category is different from state to state in India. Here is how OBC’s are categorised in AP.
    You can google for all other states.
    The Backward Classes community in Andhra Pradesh consists of 92 castes and
    these castes are categorized into four groups as follows :
    List of B.Cs and categorization
    (As per G.O.Ms.No. 1793 Education Dept., Dt : 23.9.1970 as modified from
    time to time).
    GROUP - ‘A’
    Aboriginal Tribes, Vimuktha Jathis, Nomadic and Semi-Nomadic Tribes etc.
    1.
    Agrakula Kshatriya, Palli Vadabalija, Bestha, Jalati, Gangavar, Gangaputra,
    Goondla, Vanyakulakshatriya, (Vannekapu, Vanne reddi, Pallikapu, Pallireddi)
    Neyyala and Pattapu.
    2.
    Balasanthu, Bahurupi
    3.
    Bandara
    4.
    Budabukkala
    5.
    Rajaka (Chakali, Vannar)
    6.
    Dasari (Formerly engaged in Bhikshathana G.O.Ms. No.32 BCW (M1) Dept., dt.
    23.2.1995)
    7.
    Dommara
    8.
    Gangiredlavaru
    9.
    Jangam whose traditional Occupation is begging.
    10.
    Jogi
    11.
    Katipapala
    12.
    Korcha
    *13.
    Lambada or Banjara in Telangana Area (Deleted and Included in the list of
    Scheduled Tribed G.O. Ms. No. 149, SW Dept., Dt 3.6.1978)
    14.
    Mondivaru, Mondibanda, Banda
    15.
    Nayi-Brahmin (Mangali, Mangala and Bhajanthri G.O. Ms. No. 1, BCW (M1)
    Dept., Dt 6.1.96)
    16.
    Nakkala
    17.
    Vamsharaj (Pitchigunta Deleted in G.O. Ms. No. 27, BCW (M1) Dept., Dt
    23.6.95)
    18.
    Pamula
    19.
    Pardhi (Nirishikari)
    20.
    Pambala
    21.
    Peddammavandlu, Devaravandlu, Yallammavandlu, Mutyalammavandlu
    22.
    Veeramusthi (Nettikotala) Veerabhadreeya (G.O. Ms. No. 62, BCW (M) Dept. dt.
    10.12.1996)
    23.
    Valmiki, Boya (Boya, Bedar, Kirataka, Nishadi, Yellapi Pedda Boya &
    Chunduvallu G.O. Ms. No. 124, SW Dept., Dt 24.6.1985)
    Yellapall (G.O. Ms. No. 61, BCW (M) Dept. dt. 5.12.1996)
    24.
    Yerukulas in Telangana Area (Deleted in G.O. Ms. No. 149, SW Dept., Dt
    3.6.1978)
    *25.
    Gudala
    26.
    Kanjara - Bhatta
    27.
    Kalinga (Kinthala deleted in G.O. Ms. No. 53, SW Dept., Dt 7..3.1980)
    28.
    Kopmare or Reddika
    29.
    Mondipatta
    30.
    Nekkar
    31.
    Pariki Muggula
    32.
    Yata
    33.
    Chopemari
    34.
    Kaikadi
    35.
    Jo-shinadiwalas
    36.
    Odde (Oddilu, Vaddi, Vaddelu)
    37.
    Mandula (G.M.No. 40-VI/70-1, Edn dt. 10.2.72)
    38.
    Mehtar (Muslim) G.M.No. 234 - VI/72-2, Edn dt.5.7.72)
    39.
    Kunapuli (G.M.No. 1279/PI/74-10, E&SW., dt. 8.8.1975)
    GROUP - ‘B’
    Vocational
    1.
    Achukatlavandlu
    2.
    Aryakshatriya, Chittari, Giniyar, Chirakara, Nakhas (Muchi (Telugu Speaking)
    Was deleted in G.O. Ms. No.31 BCW (M1) Dept., dt.11..6.96)
    3.
    Devanga
    4.
    Goud (Ediga, Gouda (Gamalla) Kalalce, Goundla, Settibalija of Visakhapatnam,
    East Godavari, West Godavari and Krishna Districs & Srisayana (Segidi) (
    G.O.Ms.No. 63, BCW (M1) Dept., dt.11.12.96)
    5.
    Dudekula, Laddaf, Pinjari or Noorbasha
    6.
    Gandla, Telikula, Devatlilakula (G.O.Ms.No.13, BCW (P1) Dept.., dt
    20.5.1997)
    7.
    Jandra
    8.
    Kummara or Kulala, Salivahana (GpO.Ms.No. 28 BCW (M1) Dept., dt 24.6.1995)
    9.
    Karikalabhakthula, Kaikolan or Kaikala (Sengundam or Sengunther)
    10.
    Karnabhakthulu
    11.
    Kuruba or Kuruma
    12.
    Nagavaddilu
    13.
    Neelakanthi
    14.
    Patkar (khartri)
    15.
    Perika (Perika Balija, Puragiri Kshatriya)
    16.
    Nossi or Kurni
    17.
    Padmasali (Sali, Salivan Padmasali, Senapathulu, Thogata sali)
    18.
    Srisayana (Segidi) (Deleted and merged with Sl.No.4 of Group - B vide
    G.O.Ms.No. 63, BCW (M1) Dept., dt 11.12.1996)
    19.
    Swakulasali
    20.
    Thogata, Thogati or Thogata - Veerakshatriya
    21.
    Viswabrahmin (Ausula, Kamsali, Kummari, Kanchari, Vadla or Vadra or Vadrangi
    & Silpis, Viswakarma) (G.O.Ms.No. 59, BCW (M1) Dept., dt 6.12.1995)
    GROUP - ‘C’
    Harijan Convers
    1. Scheduled Castes converts to Christianity and their progency.
    GROUP - ‘D’
    Other Castes
    1.
    Agaru
    2.
    Arekatika, Katika
    3.
    Atagara
    4.
    Bhatraju
    5.
    Chippolu (Mera)
    6.
    Gavara
    7.
    Godaba
    8.
    Hatkar
    9.
    Jakkala
    10.
    Jingara
    11.
    Kandra
    12.
    Koshti
    13.
    Kachi
    14.
    Surya Balija (Kalavanthula) Ganika (G.O.Ms. No. 20, BCW (P2) Dept., dt
    19.7.1994)
    15.
    Krishnabalija (Dasari, Bukka)
    16.
    Koppulavelama
    17.
    Mathura
    18.
    Mali
    19.
    Mudiraj, Mutrasi, Tenugollu
    20.
    Munnurukapu (Telangana)
    21.
    Nagavasam (Nagavamsa) (G.O. Ms. No.53, BCW (M1) Dept., dt 19..9.1996)
    22.
    Nelli
    23.
    Polinativelamas of Srikakulam and Visakhapatnam Districts
    24.
    Poosala
    25.
    Passi
    26.
    Rangarez or Bhavasarakshastriya
    27.
    Sadhuchetty
    28.
    Satani (Chattada Srivaishnava)
    29.
    Tammali (Confined to Nalgonda, Mahabubnagar, karimnagar, Nizamabad and
    Adilabad Districts only. G.O.Ms.No.20, BCW (A1) Dept., dt..21-July-1997)
    30.
    Turupukapus or Gajulakapus of Srikakulam & Visakhapatnam districts. Who are
    subject to Social customs of Divorce & Remarriages among their women (
    G.O.Ms.No. 65, E & SW Dept., dt.18.2.1974)
    31.
    Uppara or Sagara
    32.
    Vanjara (Vanjari)
    33.
    Yadava (Golla)
    * Deleted
    Target - Occupational Groups
    The major Occupational Groups identified for assistance alongwith their
    traditional activities are shown below :
    Sl. No.
    Occupational Groups
    Major Economic
    Activity
    % share in the total occupational group
    population (State Level)
    1.
    Yadava
    Cattle Rearing
    23.46%
    Golla
    Milk Vending
    Kuruma
    Sheep Rearing
    Kuruba
    Kumbli Weaving
    2.
    Gowda
    Toddy Tapping
    16.34%
    Ediga
    Settibalija
    Yata
    Gamaeler
    Gundla
    Kalalee
    Srisayana
    3.
    Agnikulakshatriya
    Fishing
    9.34%
    Besta
    Gangaputra
    Vanyakulakshatriya
    Vada Balija
    Pattapu
    Palli
    Gangavaru
    Goondla
    Vannereddy
    Pallikapu
    Pallireddy
    Nayeelu
    4.
    Padmasali
    Weaving
    9.24%
    Devangi
    Thogata
    Thogati
    T V Kshatriya
    Patkar
    Swakulasali
    Jandra
    Atchukatla Vandlu
    5.
    Odde
    Earth Works
    7.22%
    Uppara
    Vaddelu
    Sagaras
    6.
    Vishwabrahmin
    Goldsmithy
    6.72%
    Kamsali
    Blacksmithy
    Kanchari
    Brassmithy
    Kammari
    Stone Carving (Silpi)
    Vadrangi
    Carpentry
    7.
    Rajaka
    Laundry
    11.88%
    8.
    Dudekula
    Cotton Carding
    4.05%
    Noorbasha
    Luddaq
    Pinjaries
    9.
    Kummara
    Pottery
    4.10
    Kulala
    10.
    Nayeebrahmin
    Hair Dressing
    3.99%
    Mangali
    11.
    Gandla
    Oil Pressing
    1.17%
    Telikula
    12.
    Arekatika
    Butchery
    0.64%
    Katika
    13.
    Medari
    Basketry
    0.64%
    Gundla
    Gadaba
    14.
    Poosala
    Petty Dealers
    (Beads &Needles)
    0.22%
    15.
    Rangrej
    Tailoring/Needles
    0.19%
    Chippollu/Mera

  4. JK on July 24th, 2009 12:25 am

    To stick with the topic. You can’t shrug off his views altogether as irrelevant. But late marriage for women is not advisable considering that the men they marry will be older to them and by the time their children grow up they might not be in a position to see their economical and social conditions improved.

  5. skg on July 24th, 2009 10:31 pm

    Government should implement uniform civil code to control the population of India. Most of the Muslim 20-30 children from multiple wives and it is significantly creating unnecessary population and creating a burden to the sources of the country. Islamic clerics should stop living in denial and should educate their masses in implementing family planning.

  6. Amit Bhadhuri, Ex_Officer,CISF on July 25th, 2009 2:43 pm

    Since 15th August 1947, the country has run by filthy and scumbag politicians who for the sake of Muslim vote bank politics will not even accept a unformed civil code. This allows spiralling Muslims population increases and illegal immigration from Bangladesh which in 1951 census was 6% and now at 18%
    Accept the facts rulers have been mostly Hindus since 1947 and Hinudus have been biggest enemies of Hindus always for their vested self-interests and short-term gains.
    The way things are going under the UPA it won’t very long that Assam, West Bengal and Kashmir will end up in Paki and Bangladeshi hands.

  7. Amit Bhadhuri, Ex_Officer,CISF on July 25th, 2009 8:02 pm

    If we really mean to control spiralling population bust in Bharat which is the root of all evils in Bharat, then we need Narendra Modi as Prime Minister. As long as Congress and similar scumbag Muslim appeaser politicians remain in power there is no hope and at the same time nothing could get better from a politician like L K Advani who still has not apologised for praising bloody Jinnah.
    The country desperately needs a strong Indian leader and not a subsevient spineless PM of foreigner Super PM

  8. dev on July 26th, 2009 8:50 am

    bjp cannot wash its hands off this problem.
    did it commission any study of the increasing rather exploding muslim population and its effect or have raised this issue to the people. i believe this threat is far greater than any other threat india today is facing/will face.
    when it was in power it had too much fear of losing power aka support of treacherous allies than fear of losing credibility. and result today it lost both.

  9. Amit Bhadhuri, Ex_Officer,CISF on July 26th, 2009 2:05 pm

    Hi Dev,
    I could’t agree with you anymore. When in power it practically did nothing to address of the issues it said would do before coming to power. When in power PAKIS carried out barrage of attacks in Bharat and BJP at least could attack once the terrorist camps in occupied Kashmir but they did nothing. Then the worst thing was to accompaning the dreaded terrorists by freak Jaswant Singh who still has not apologised since for his stupid actions. And the worst of it all since 2004 taking the policies of causing disruptions in parliament proceedings under L K Advani. They lost 2009 elections because of all above and of course the EVM frauds.

  10. skg on July 26th, 2009 11:56 pm

    We need a change in the leadership of BJP ?. We need a strong leader who can defend the party and project it as a strong alternative to congress. The Ratha yatras of L.K.Advani are not going to help revive the party. Party needs lot of Modis. L.K.Advani should graciously retire since he failed to revive the party after 2004 elections and eventually lost the elections in 2009.

  11. Krishna Tarway on July 27th, 2009 12:31 am

    @skg

    यह आडवानी ही हैं जो पार्टी को दो अंकों की जगह तीन अंकों तक पार्टी को पहुँचाया . यह मुझे भी लग रहा है की रथ यात्रा की रणनीति शायद लोग अब पसंद न करें .मुझे पूरा विश्वास है की उनके मन में कुछ न कुछ जरुर चल रहा होगा की पार्टी को और कैसे मजबूत करें .यह जरुर है की और मोदी की जरुरत पार्टी को अब है .इसके लिए पार्टी के शीर्ष नेताओं को नए सीरे से गंभीरता से विचार करना होगा .यह अत्यंत ही जरुरी है .I agree with you.

  12. Piyush Kulshreshtha on July 27th, 2009 10:03 am

    Dear Amit,

    I personally think that you have touched upon one of the most sensitive issues that is going to affect humanity in many adverse ways in the very near future.

    A lot of politics if BJP as an organizations gets discussed here. But the objective of being in politics, to frame the right policies is missed out all the time. And then again, when it is discussed, it is limited to superficial subjects of finance, security etc etc. Subjects that are more fundamental have typically looked less juicy. So congratulations on bringing out a very good topic.

    At the outset, I am certain that a politician of the calibre of Mr. Ghulam Nabi Azad is not a stupid man. I am very sure that the statements you hae highlighted were part of certain light hearted comments to describe the menacing nature of this problem. I typically consider Mr. Azad to be part of serious political leadership.

    The points mentioned about you about how the population grows esp. from rural and urban-slums of India is right on dot. I have been studying the issues of population and its impact on natural resources for over a year now and also have a group addressing this concern on facebook, called - Earth’s Resources Are Coming To An End. Just an initial effort to bring similar thinking people into our fold.

    However, there are more reasons for such explosive population growth in India. A good amount of it according to my understanding is for certain unexplained and implicit diabolical political reasons. It is no secret that demographic change has always been used by enemies of the state. We have seen a different approach to that end in Jammu and Kashmir where Kashmiri Pundits have been thrown out to maintain a larger percentage for Muslim population.

    We all know that the Muslim population in India has seen a huge growth in percentage terms. And when this percentage is converted to absolute numbers on a population of over one billion you find an astronomically large number in place.

    Whats Helping all this?

    Absence of Uniform Civil Code.

    Muslims are allowed polygamy. In some cases, for upto five adults they produce over eight infants. Which in other word means that the population replacement is much larger. Almost 5:8 and more. This against a typical average of 1:1 that is desired and fairly well executed in families from religions where polygamy is not permitted.

    Another important reason to consider is Illegeal Immigration.

    One has to remember at all times that its not just an issue of security from a political perspective. This is a question of undue increase in human population within our boundaries with illegal immigrants creating pressure on social security including use of govt. provided resources like education, health, safe drinking water, electricity, road, transportation, food and many such areas.

    There are of course many socio-economic reasons for population growth. But the hit that we are taking due to above mentioned issues can be controlled from today onwards, if there is a political will.

    There are many other related areas of concern around this subject.

    For a better understanding, may I suggest all the readers a book called An Essay on the Principle of Population by Thomas Robert Malthus.

    I have a copy of that book. Will be happy to share with interested people. The text is also available on the net.

  13. skg on July 27th, 2009 10:30 pm

    Under Congress rule their is no fairness to Hindus. It is all minority appeasement. Congress will not implement Uniform Civil Code as it is heavily dependent on its Minority Vote Bank. They will not also stop illegal immigration from Bangladesh as it benefits their vote bank and also the vote bank of left and Trinamol congress.
    Leaders in BJP should realize this important aspect of advantage to congress and take enough measures to nail down congress instead of internal fighting. The country is facing serious challenges and leaders like Jaswant, Yaswant, Rajnath and last but not the least Mr.L.K.Advani should understand the dubious games of congress. BJP should reward hard workers and successful leaders instead of keeping useless and unpopular people and who hurt the party. I believe L.K.Advani should graciously retire now as he had consecutively failed twice to win the elections.

  14. MK on July 28th, 2009 5:28 am

    The need for ucc is beyond discussion. All of us should make it a priority to explain to people about what it means and it’s possible implications.

  15. skg on July 28th, 2009 8:05 am

    MK, except BJP , I don’t know of any party in India that raised the concern for a UCC. It is pathetic to see parties like Congress,NC,DMK, Left parties don’t have a interest in UCC.

  16. Sukhvinder on July 28th, 2009 5:12 pm

    parties like Congress,NC,DMK, Left parties have a common interest - ousting BJP at any cost so that they can keep their own regional, minority, caste based vote banks and allow enemy countries to evade India.

    parties like Congress,NC,DMK, Left parties have a genuine interest to see all sorts of calamities and disasters to hit the country so that they throw some blankets and cheap food packet and stay in power. Goof up some xxxxxxxxxxxxxx crores from exchequre.

    parties like Congress,NC,DMK, Left have a genuine interest to promote the hate politics and divide people to the extent possible so that Indians slowly forget who they are, where they stay, why they live, whats next for their KIDs, how to understand the reservation systems in India.

    parties like Congress,NC,DMK, Left have so many vested ingenuine interests that some arbritrator must be appointed to first of all understand who is at loss and who is at gain, who owes how much to the nation, and who has sold how much of national property by surrendering to cheap means of nation building.

  17. Amit Bhadhuri, Ex_Officer,CISF on July 28th, 2009 11:07 pm

    Dear Piyush,
    Many thanks for a comprehensive and informative writings of the evil of population bust in Hindustan and how that is destroying every aspects of Indian life and society. I feel, your this article should get a very wide circulation though it may end up to deaf and scumbag ears of politicians including BJP. We can not allow the systematic destruction of Bharat by filthy politicians and foreign aided English media. As a patriot who has served in para-military forces I can’t tolerate that.

  18. dev on July 29th, 2009 4:38 am

    i believe the islamic population is much greater than the census projects. one easy ball park estimate is number of mosque and street side prayer meetings you can see how many times these have grown.
    if the explosion is allowed to continued we will soon land into serbia or lebanon like situation. remember in both these countries muslims were minority . in lebanon i think they were in minority even 50 years back.
    and we don’t need to narrate the consequence of them becoming majority. we know we will be branded as hate mongers .dirty minds even before we start discussing such issue, but it remains our duty to enlighten the masses about the impending danger. this is quite a scientific problem it has nothing to do with muslim as such.
    indian muslims are generally good as good as indian hindus, the argument is not about evil nature of muslims or their faith it is about population lebanization. the islamic faith requires expansion by multiplication, aggression ,
    jihad or whatever it takes and certain elements of these faith is so much different from generally hindu culture of the majority now that
    there is very little scope peaceful co-existence if the now minority population is able to achieve even a 30-35% population and unfortunately things seem to be heading towards this.
    the problem is even facts however well known they must be backed up by expert studies otherwise they are only fiction and we are fanatical and communal for believing in them.
    since bjp governments in states or when it was in center has shown little will in this direction i think a think-tank should be established by private initiative of pragmatic indians.
    inclusive development with minorities having a sense of belongingness and share of the country is a lofty goal which i also like. but the way it is being carried out now, even the very existence of india will not be sustainable let alone development.

  19. Amit Bhadhuri, Ex_Officer,CISF on July 29th, 2009 7:09 pm

    Piyush and Dev have both explained very well the danger of spiralling Muslim population bust in Bharat. Most unfortunately no politicians excepting Narendra Modi talks about it and parties like Congress, Communists, DMK, SP, BSP etc are helping to grow the Muslim population blatantly. With the current trend in next 40 or 50 years the Muslim Population in Bharat will surpass the Hindus.

  20. MK on July 30th, 2009 2:47 am

    Most average Indians do not know[ not enough] what is right or left wing policies. You guys or we all guys would do good to atleast bring that talk to family and your pals. Once people know left wing socialist policies, then they themselves will know what is blocking our society from making immense progress.

  21. skg on July 30th, 2009 7:23 am

    There is a strong reason why Shivaji Maharaj fought against the rule of Aurangazeb. Imagine with power in Kashmir how Muslims are ruling J&K. We are already seeing the dangers of Jihad in Kerala and West Bengal. Ignoring the dangerous of not controlling Muslim population without Uniform Civil Code is like living in denial of the very existence of India. Uniform Civil code will strip away the freebies the unresponsible Muslims who are marrying more than one wife and having multiple children without any control . People who want to Islamize India by uncontrolled family planning should not be encouraged. If congress and left parties and other political parties are encouraging them it is the responsibility . I don’t think any sympathy to Sonia Gandhi or MMS or any Gandhi will help resolve the imminent danger India is heading towards. You snooze you loose. If You don’t fight you will not get any benefit.

  22. dev on August 2nd, 2009 9:52 pm

    dear skg and all.
    i see a lot of bjp supporters immediately wanting imposition of UCC. UCC is good but will solve no purpose other than inviting some violent acts from the minority community. First thing that needs to be done is educating the majority about the harmful effects of demographic disbalance . when the majority is properly and irreversibly convinced we don’t need to specify any solution it will be automatically found.
    i feel bjp has utterly failed to communicate this problem to the masses and neither see any attempt to do so. it should create a think tank which should properly research on this issue and start a debate to enlighten the public about it.
    educated muslims should also help their community to understand that a demographically split india between 2 extremely contrasting cultures wont be leading to a peaceful existence.

  23. vishal on August 12th, 2009 8:51 pm

    When a hm releases the guidelines of a flue or some thing of that nature you know straigt away this person has no under what he is dealing with PM has to tell him to appoint a panel. These are such a trivial things as part of day to day working but in INDIA HM does this, looks like we have got inept people running the ministeries and the country. No wonder China says india can be divided easily

  24. skg on August 13th, 2009 1:52 am

    Dev you are right in your comments. UCC is requied otherwise minority Muslims are taking undue advantage of the System and creating a huge pressure on the Majority Hindus. They are taking away their jobs, resources and government funds that will otherwise be used for them.

  25. Krishna Tarway on August 13th, 2009 4:03 pm

    बीजेपी के जितने भी प्रमुख मुद्दे हैं कोमन सिविल कोड , धारा ३७० आदि सिर्फ चुनाव नजदीक आने पर ही इसकी चर्चा होती है और बाकी दिनों में ये मुद्दे बीजेपी के ठंडे बसते में चले जाते हैं जरुरत है की आम दिनों में भी ये मुद्दे जनता के सामने पब्लिक मीटिंग में रखे जाएँ .जिससे देश की आम जनता इन मुद्दों के प्रति हमेशा जागरूक बना रहे .

  26. Mohan on August 13th, 2009 6:08 pm

    Yes Krishna ji, you are right on. As a supporter of the party its frustrating that these issues are not gaining traction nor are articulated properly by the party. When they are raised during elections they are treated as plain gimmicks.

  27. skg on August 13th, 2009 10:28 pm

    I full agree with Mohan’s and Krishna’s comments. BJP should raise these issues even during normal times and just not during the elections.

  28. Aditya N Bhattacharjee on August 15th, 2009 9:48 pm

    I appeal to all BJP leaders and its well wishers, the basic issues which BJP raised 20-25 years ago like common civil code and article 370 ext, should be discussed in every meeting across India.

    Let the Indian public know & think on these issues year after year and come to a conclusion at the time of general election. The electronic and press media will always strongly oppose such issues if BJP is taking at the time of election only. Immediately they will tag BJP with “Communal” party or “Hindu rightwing Party” ext.

    Other parties are using minorities and backward class population as vote bank, I strongly believe that members of BJP must convince them, with the sign that BJP is not at all against them, we believe in equality in all the sects of our Indian Society.

    Vanday Mataram, Jai Hind.

  29. Krishna Tarway on August 28th, 2009 12:50 pm

    friends of bjp से अपील

    यदि इस साईट को स्वस्थ बनाना है तो friends of bjp के लोगों को चाहिए की इसको बी बी सी हिंदी . कॉम की तर्ज़ पर बनाये .जैसा की उसमे दुनिया भर के सभी लोग अपनी निष्पक्ष राय किसी भी लेख पर रखते हैं जो बी बी सी द्वारा पोस्ट किया जाता है .यह साईट अस्वस्थ ही नहीं बल्कि षडयंत्र का शिकार भी है .कोई कुछ भी पोस्ट कर रहा है जो विषय या लेख से सम्बन्धित नहीं है .यह अस्वस्थ तरीका है .

  30. Krishna Tarway on August 29th, 2009 10:27 pm

    जो बीजेपी के समर्थक हैं वो उन्ही लोगों के सवालों का जवाब दें जिनकी भाषा मर्यादित हो .उन सवालों और मुद्दों का जवाब कतई न दें जो अमर्यादित भाषा का प्रयोग करते हैं .मुझे लगता है कुछ बीजेपी के विरोधी (कांग्रेसी लोग ) इस साईट पर घुस आये हैं जो अभद्र भाषा का इस्तमाल कर रहे हैं और अनाप शनाप कुछ भी कह रहे हैं .

  31. VANDEMATARAM on September 2nd, 2009 6:22 pm

    BJP SHOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN ELECTION DEBATE NOT IN ANY CONTROVERSIAL DEBATES .

  32. VANDEMATARAM on September 2nd, 2009 6:23 pm

    BJP SHOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN ELECTION DEBATE NOT IN ANY CONTROVERSIAL DEBATES

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    –BJP SHOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN ELECTION DEBATE NOT IN ANY CONTROVERSIAL DEBATES

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  37. VANDEMATARAM on September 2nd, 2009 6:53 pm

    BJP SHOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN ELECTION DEBATE NOT IN ANY CONTROVERSIAL DEBATES MADE BY NATIONAL DESTRUCTIVE TV CHANNELS.

  38. VANDEMATARAM on September 2nd, 2009 6:55 pm

    BJP SHOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN ELECTION DEBATE NOT IN ANY CONTROVERSIAL DEBATES MADE BY NATIONAL DESTRUCTIVE TV CHANNELS

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  41. Dibyajyoti Guha on September 2nd, 2009 9:58 pm

    I am a supporter of BJP but expect the below things from my opinion. Former PA to Nehru M.O. Mathai’s book “Reminiscences of the Nehru age” is banned since it is against Nehru. Why BJP is not fighting to lift ban on this book? Justice Mukherjee Commission has completed the inquiry about in 2006 about what happened to Netaji after 18th Aug 1945 which has been submitted to Parliament in 2006. BJP is silent about Netaji too.Why BJP is not able to prove that Jana Sangh founder leader Dr. Shyama Prasad Mukherjee was poisoned and murdered by Nehru? A single post mortem was not conducted by Govt. of India. Are they fighting for it? BJP is simply not fighting to establish the truth. Our History about Netaji, Bhagat Singh, Dr. Shyama Prasad Mukherjee has been tampered, but BJP is not fighting for it.
    They are not putting up a Sanskrit school or fighting for Go raksha.RSS or VHP should put up more schools for orphan or Below Poverty level child.BJP is silent on Kashmiri Hindu’s , now North East huge amount of minority infiltration is happening. BJP should fight for them. Should focus only on Hindu nationalism.Without understanding of Hindu we can’t define India.
    Sri Aurobindo had given a historical speech on 30th may 1909 in Uttarpara,WB after coming out of Alipore Jail . It was fully on Hindu Nationalism, but Nehru failed to understand Him and Hindutva ideology,Nehru termed Sri Aurobindo as Non Secular and around 1962 he accepted he was mistaken about Sri Aurobindo.
    Hindu is a dharma which preaches co-existence of every living being whether it is Hindu or non-Hindu.It’s outlook is itself the root of Secular idea. But BJP failed to convince all the Indian about Hindutva which was all along Inclusive. Here is link about Sri Aurobindo’s speech http://intyoga.online.fr/uttaspch.htm